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I opened the pesky file, selected show track changes, and selected accept all changes. There were over 6,700 changes, so it took quite some time, with the spinning beach ball going throughout the process, but NWP did the job and the file seems completely usable now.

Yours,
Simi
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Simeon Chavel
Assistant Professor of Hebrew Bible
The University of Chicago Divinity School
http://divinity.uchicago.edu/faculty/chavel.shtml
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On Aug 31, 2013, at 7:21 AM, Erik Richard Sørensen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hello Simeon & Rick...
> 
> rdavis wrote:
>>> I think I have hit NWP's limit on document length.
>>> It is over 450 pages with footnotes, right-to-left
>>> sections, and use of the graphic layer. I must have
>>> hit a breaking point because opening the document
>>> suddenly takes minutes, and when it does finally
>>> open, adding a line into the document cause it to
>>> hang (spinning beach ball).
>> 
>> In my experience, NW used to be slow at handling
>> multi-megabyte files, but has gotten much better.
>> But Anne asks a good question. In that regard, how
>> much RAM do you have? Many applications will slow
>> down or have other problems if they are working in
>> a crowded environment. This might not be your
>> problem, but it's the best place to start.
> 
> Iøve noticed the exact same as Simeon. Many of my documents are +150-200 pages with both graphics, heavy formattings and often one large table with more columns, but no footnotes or endnotes...
> 
> I once have used a stopwatch to see how long time it takes to open such a document to be ready for further writing + formatting. The longest took +6 mins. to open to write-ready. - My default document format is RTF.
> 
> I then thought that this couldn't be true, so I tried more times with same result... So I made an experiment.
> 
> - Opened a new blank document and set the margins and page headers and footers.
> - Used the command 'Select Table Text' in the problematic 205pgs. document.
> - Pasted the selected text into the blank document
> - Created new table with inserted text.
> - Formatted everything like in the original [it took it's time.:-)]
> - Saved the new documentwith a new name to keep the original in case...
> - Quit NWP
> - Re-opened the new document
> - Opening time to ready-to-write apprx. 2 mins!
> 
> Then I got really curious and opened the original RTF document in BBEdit 9. Here I saw informations for each and every time the document has been saved and closed, re-opened and then closed again. From the beginning I've set BBEdit to mark changes with red, so it was quite easy to see the changes and differences.
> 
> I now did the same with the new RTF document - and wasn't that surprised to see only _one_ intro information paragraph + very few characters for each time the document has been aborted.
> 
> To be sure that I saw what I saw I did the same with some larger MSWD2008 (.doc) and AWKS 6.2 (.cwk) documents and hereto I changed the suffix on a copy of the large NWP document from RTF to DOC to keep all formatting when opening this document in MSWD2008. It also took apprx. 6 mins. to open the original document in MSWord and apprx. 2 mins. for the new document.
> 
> In the real MSWD and AWKS documents - when opened in BBEdit - the intro and aborting information are located just where the document was saved and aborted - i.e. not in the beginning of the document, but where the cursor was, when I hit COM+S and COM+Q.
> 
> My conclusion is that it very well can be all that intro-, saving- and page information that slows down opening very large NWP documents. - But I also don't know how to 'fix' this problem - except for copying the content to a new blank document once in a while...
> 
> My main computer is a MacPro Xeon 4x2,66ghz with 14gb of pfysical memory, OS X 10.5.x, 10.6.x and 10.7.x. But it is the same on my G5 Dual 1,8ghz with 4gb of momory and OS X 10.4.x and 10.5.x.
> 
> Cheers, Erik Richard
> 
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