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>Subject: RE: #8044.2 Audio Recording (!)
>Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 08:46:47 -0500
>Thread-Topic: #8044.2 Audio Recording (!)
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Thank you for the input - it does help :-) 


Thank you,
 
John


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>Subject: RE: #8043 Audio Recording
>Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:49:55 -0400
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Hi, John:

I can offer an opinion on one of the apps you mention below, which is actually
two of the items on your list.  I've used CoolEdit Pro for a number of years
now, and like it very much.  So did Adobe, which bought Syntrillium (CoolEdit's
manufacturer), and rebranded CoolEdit as Audition.  The plug-ins for audio
cleanup and dynamics processing were excellent, and easy to use.  

Re: ADS Red Rover ... there are a lot of inexpensive USB audio input/output
converters and preamps on the market.  We use M-Audio's MobilePre, which has XLR
and phantom power for decent mics, simple controls and USB 2.0 input.  If you're
inputting directly to a computer, the applications you mention below will all
handle some of the gain and echo issues you're referring to, as long as those
settings are established prior to the start of a session.  An I/O box like the
MobilePre will generally have simple controls for gain, so you can avoid
clipping while recording and adjust the input level as needed.  More expensive
preamps will allow you to tweak the dynamics in mid-session, but if you're doing
voice work, and have run a test session, you likely won't need that.  I'm not
sure why you'd need a hardware controller for your software, like Red Rover,
unless you're recording yourself and running back and forth from computer to
mic.  And then, that's what post-production editing's for ...

I hope this helps -- please feel free to contact me offlist if I've not been
clear, or if you'd like more information.

Best,

a.

Andrew F. Ross, Ph.D
Director, Language Resource Center
Brown University
Box 1935
Providence, RI 02912-1935
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Mobile: (401) 641-0329
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Subject: #8043 Audio Recording

Hello List,

 

We do a fairly large amount of recording and audio streaming.

We have a small studio that is pretty much sound proof.  We have a couple of
microphones in the booth that connect to a mixing console with a reel to reel
tape and a cassette recorder.  We have been digitizing the cassettes using a
tape player connected to a PC.

 

Recently we tried using a hand held digital voice recorder and that worked well
for the people we recorded.  It didn't work well from my point of view in that I
had to make numerous adjustments to the volume as well as remove some echo from
the wma files.  

 

I would like to be able to adjust the sound inputs before/during recording and
then take the digital file and edit it on the computer; avoiding the tedious
process of digitizing the cassette tape all together.

 

Does anyone know much about or have an opinion on:

1.	ADS Red Rover - Remote Control and
2.	Adobe Audition
3.	Syntrillium Cool Edit Pro 2.0
4.	Cakewalk SONAR Studio
5.	Producer Edition 4.0.2

 

 

 

Thank you,

 

John

 

 

 

John Niendorf

Director, Foreign Language Media Center

Purdue University

Stanley Coulter Hall 220

6-2259

 

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Hello List,

=20

We do a fairly large amount of recording and audio streaming.

We have a small studio that is pretty much sound proof.  We have a couple of
microphones in the booth that connect to a mixing console with a reel to reel
tape and a cassette recorder.  We have been digitizing the cassettes using a
tape player connected to a PC.

=20

Recently we tried using a hand held digital voice recorder and that worked well
for the people we recorded.  It didn't work well from my point of view in that I
had to make numerous adjustments to the volume as well as remove some echo from
the wma files. =20

=20

I would like to be able to adjust the sound inputs before/during recording and
then take the digital file and edit it on the computer; avoiding the tedious
process of digitizing the cassette tape all together.

=20

Does anyone know much about or have an opinion on:

1.	ADS Red Rover - Remote Control and
2.	Adobe Audition
3.	Syntrillium Cool Edit Pro 2.0
4.	Cakewalk SONAR Studio
5.	Producer Edition 4.0.2

=20

=20

=20

Thank you,

=20

John

=20

=20

=20

John Niendorf

Director, Foreign Language Media Center

Purdue University

Stanley Coulter Hall 220

6-2259


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