--- Forwarded Message from "Niendorf, John F" <[log in to unmask]> --- >Subject: RE: #8044.2 Audio Recording (!) >Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 08:46:47 -0500 >Thread-Topic: #8044.2 Audio Recording (!) >Thread-Index: AcXU5/wC6enteX5JQBKORd0/qGlKuQAlKn7g >From: "Niendorf, John F" <[log in to unmask]> >To: "Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum" <[log in to unmask]> Thank you for the input - it does help :-) Thank you, John -----Original Message----- From: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of LLTI-Editor Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 2:59 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: #8044.2 Audio Recording (!) --- Forwarded Message from "Ross, Andrew" <[log in to unmask]> --- >Subject: RE: #8043 Audio Recording >Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:49:55 -0400 >Thread-Topic: #8043 Audio Recording >Thread-Index: AcXUGEmOPFSSLL/fRmGCVgaz/LbGuAAAclNA >From: "Ross, Andrew" <[log in to unmask]> >To: "Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum" <[log in to unmask]> Hi, John: I can offer an opinion on one of the apps you mention below, which is actually two of the items on your list. I've used CoolEdit Pro for a number of years now, and like it very much. So did Adobe, which bought Syntrillium (CoolEdit's manufacturer), and rebranded CoolEdit as Audition. The plug-ins for audio cleanup and dynamics processing were excellent, and easy to use. Re: ADS Red Rover ... there are a lot of inexpensive USB audio input/output converters and preamps on the market. We use M-Audio's MobilePre, which has XLR and phantom power for decent mics, simple controls and USB 2.0 input. If you're inputting directly to a computer, the applications you mention below will all handle some of the gain and echo issues you're referring to, as long as those settings are established prior to the start of a session. An I/O box like the MobilePre will generally have simple controls for gain, so you can avoid clipping while recording and adjust the input level as needed. More expensive preamps will allow you to tweak the dynamics in mid-session, but if you're doing voice work, and have run a test session, you likely won't need that. I'm not sure why you'd need a hardware controller for your software, like Red Rover, unless you're recording yourself and running back and forth from computer to mic. And then, that's what post-production editing's for ... I hope this helps -- please feel free to contact me offlist if I've not been clear, or if you'd like more information. Best, a. Andrew F. Ross, Ph.D Director, Language Resource Center Brown University Box 1935 Providence, RI 02912-1935 Tel: (401) 863-7010 Mobile: (401) 641-0329 ****************** "Worrying about a large institution, especially when it has computers, is like worrying about a large gorilla, especially when it's on fire." - Bruce Sterling -----Original Message----- From: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of LLTI-Editor Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 3:12 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: #8043 Audio Recording Hello List, We do a fairly large amount of recording and audio streaming. We have a small studio that is pretty much sound proof. We have a couple of microphones in the booth that connect to a mixing console with a reel to reel tape and a cassette recorder. We have been digitizing the cassettes using a tape player connected to a PC. Recently we tried using a hand held digital voice recorder and that worked well for the people we recorded. It didn't work well from my point of view in that I had to make numerous adjustments to the volume as well as remove some echo from the wma files. I would like to be able to adjust the sound inputs before/during recording and then take the digital file and edit it on the computer; avoiding the tedious process of digitizing the cassette tape all together. Does anyone know much about or have an opinion on: 1. ADS Red Rover - Remote Control and 2. Adobe Audition 3. Syntrillium Cool Edit Pro 2.0 4. Cakewalk SONAR Studio 5. Producer Edition 4.0.2 Thank you, John John Niendorf Director, Foreign Language Media Center Purdue University Stanley Coulter Hall 220 6-2259 Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from exchange.purdue.edu (1061exfe01.adpc.purdue.edu) by listserv.dartmouth.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; Tue, 18 Oct 2005 12:33:02 -0400 Received: from EXCH01.purdue.lcl ([128.210.63.230]) by exchange.purdue.edu with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:33:00 -0500 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C5D401.9BA26376" Subject: ADS Red Rover Remote Control Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:33:02 -0500 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: ADS Red Rover Remote Control Thread-index: AcXUAZ9zdGHyBmqxQ+akiBiTEGfAnw== From: "Niendorf, John F" <[log in to unmask]> To: "Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum" <[log in to unmask]> Return-Path: [log in to unmask] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Oct 2005 16:33:00.0883 (UTC) FILETIME=[9AE74230:01C5D401] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C5D401.9BA26376 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello List, =20 We do a fairly large amount of recording and audio streaming. We have a small studio that is pretty much sound proof. We have a couple of microphones in the booth that connect to a mixing console with a reel to reel tape and a cassette recorder. We have been digitizing the cassettes using a tape player connected to a PC. =20 Recently we tried using a hand held digital voice recorder and that worked well for the people we recorded. It didn't work well from my point of view in that I had to make numerous adjustments to the volume as well as remove some echo from the wma files. =20 =20 I would like to be able to adjust the sound inputs before/during recording and then take the digital file and edit it on the computer; avoiding the tedious process of digitizing the cassette tape all together. =20 Does anyone know much about or have an opinion on: 1. ADS Red Rover - Remote Control and 2. Adobe Audition 3. Syntrillium Cool Edit Pro 2.0 4. Cakewalk SONAR Studio 5. Producer Edition 4.0.2 =20 =20 =20 Thank you, =20 John =20 =20 =20 John Niendorf Director, Foreign Language Media Center Purdue University Stanley Coulter Hall 220 6-2259 *********************************************** LLTI is a service of IALLT, the International Association for Language Learning, and The Consortium for Language Teaching and Learning (http://consortium.dartmouth.edu). Join IALLT at http://iallt.org. Otmar Foelsche, LLTI-Editor ([log in to unmask]) ***********************************************