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>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 13:44:35 -0500
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>Subject: Re:  #5836 virtual labs

In answer to my question 

>   What is the opposite of VIRTUAL LAB?

here are the responses which I have gotten
on and off the list (thank you EVERYBODY!):
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from Peter Liddell (UVic)
        - CALL Lab
        - f2f lab (f2c?) (c=computer!)
        - 'Presence' lab (that's a German at work, I suspect, they use 
            the word to mean a real, physical space like a library)
[f2f is FACE TO FACE)
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from Marisa Castagno, Connecticut College
        Traditional Lab
        Traditional Analog Lab
        Analog Lab
        Techno-mix lab
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from Ruth Trometer, MIT
What's your definition of Virtual Lab?
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from Sonia Bascur, Universidad de Chile
        TRADITIONAL LAB
        CLASSIC LAB
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from Ronald Bergman, Cal State
        ...join our virtual lab community
        http://www.calstate.edu/tier3/CSU-VLL/
[he read Ruth's mind!]
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from Ann Levenick, UMich
        How about facility?
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from Bill Caldwell, American U
        How 'bout   "hard lab"...?
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from Olaf Bohlke, Creighton
        brick-and-mortar lab
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from Cindy Bravo, Boston College
        Tangible Reality Lab
        The Lab B.C. (Before Computer) vs. Lab A.D. (All Digital)
        The Bricks, Mortar, Concrete Touch and Feel Lab
[she says she is kidding]
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from Leslie F Bailey, [log in to unmask]
Traditional [Language/Learning] Lab
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from Daniel Tom, UHawaii
        concrete lab
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from Jacqueline Kaminski, Purdue
        Language Center
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from Jean Teel, [log in to unmask]
        traditional lab
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Although TRADITIONAL lab gets the most votes so far, I have trouble with that
choice, as I imagine any lab would that does not consider itself
traditional. Similar problems arise with concrete, classic and analog. 

Peter's f2c is reminiscent of r2r.How many of you get either one of these
acronyms? 

I liked Jacque's justification for LANGUAGE CENTER, but that's what my place
is called anyhow, and that's what we'd call our virtual lab too. (Geddes
Language Center's Virtual Lab).

I found the argument for Brick-and-Mortar most compelling, to tell the truth,
and that's what I plan to use until a better catch word presents itself.


thanks again, listeros

bruce