From my very limited experience with a very young hawk that turned out to be an immature red-tailed hawk, I recall that when this bird was very, very young, it's markings made most of us believe it was an acceptor, We watched it every day for about ten days, and when it began to fly more than a short hop, we could tell clearly that it was an immature red tail. That would be my bet for this bird, but not an acceptor.

Bob

From: Kendall Smith <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To: Kendall Smith <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 9:56 AM
To: Upper Valley Birders <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [UVB] Hawk attack

From the Sharp Shinned I've seen, I would say Cynthia's pics are not a Sharp Shinned. The tail is not long enough. The Sharp Shinned hawks I see in WRJ, have a tail that is almost as long as their body. They are fairly slender bodied and are larger than a Grackle, but smaller than a Crow. 

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 9:29 AM, cynthia crawford <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Thanks Vic, for that affirmation, but I have to say, I am not an expert ant hawk i.d.  I think there is some chance this bird might be a Sharp-shinned Hawk. I based my decision on what looks like a larger head, and perhaps a larger bird, a longish rounded tail, and, probably a young bird as the eye is still yellow and the coloring is brownish. The angle of view in my pictures could be deceptive. I would expect an expert might even have more to say.  I also hear some "kik" calls -I interrupted this birds meal and got scolded!

Interesting that Blue Jays are getting hit-we have many of them this year-sometimes 17+ at a time.  That is unusual where I live.

Cynthia Crawford

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On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 7:32 AM, Victor Henningsen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Meant to post this earlier.  Last Friday morning, the 9th, we watched for almost two hours as a hawk calmly devoured a hapless blue jay underneath a feeder we hang from an apple tree.  We don't have a decent camera but were able to spend a good bit of time with binoculars and scope watching the event.  Based on white speckles on the scapulars, we tentatively identified the culprit as a juvenile red tail. But Cynthia Crawford's post and pictures this morning sent us back to our guides and field notes.  Based on a closer reading of bird behavior and feeding habits and a review of our field notes, we now believe what we saw was a juvenile Cooper's Hawk, particularly given that one mark we noted clearly was that the tip of its bill was dark, almost black.  The only remaining doubt is that the tail of the bird we saw didn't look as long as the guides indicate for the Cooper's. But Cynthia's pictures resemble the bird we saw and, bowing to her superior expertise, we'll revise our log.  We need to get a decent camera!

Either way it was a dramatic event. Nothing left at the end of the meal but a few feathers — not even a stray bone. Felt bad eating breakfast while this was going on outside the window, but the  chickadees continued to frequent the feeder during the latter part of the feast, so we weren't alone.

This listserv is enormously useful for those of us who are what might charitably be called "emerging birders."  Thanks to those who post to it and maintain it.

Vic Henningsen
Thetford Center


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