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Definitely the first ever pizza pan Salima Ikram Professor of Egyptology American University in Cairo P. O. Box 74, Road 90, Tagammu 5 New Cairo 11825, EGYPT [log in to unmask] Fax: +20-2-2797-4903 On 31 Jul 2014, at 21:43, Julie A. Hruby wrote: > Hi Peter, > > Yes, many of them have pretty clear blackening, usually on the smoothed > side (you can perhaps see a bit at the bottom of the near edge in the > photo). Occasionally they have blackened marks on the side with > indentations, but in that case, it can be inconsistent, with a round > ³clear² area in the center, then a ring of blackened surface around it. > Some experimental work I did with a student a few years ago suggests that > the blackening is probably burnt oil, and sometimes it seeps through the > clay. In combination with the gritty fabric, that seems to suggest that > they were used for heating. The current scholarly consensus (such as there > is) suggests that they were probably used for making breads of some sort. > > Thanks, > Julie > > > -- > Julie Hruby > Assistant Professor of Classics > Dartmouth College > HB 6086 > Hanover, NH 03755 > (603) 646-2910 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: <Burns>, Peter <[log in to unmask]> > Reply-To: "Cooking technologies of ancient Mediterranean cultures." > <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Thursday, July 31, 2014 at 3:20 PM > To: "[log in to unmask]" > <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: [ANCIENT-FOOD-TECH] On griddles > >> My question is...why the name "griddle" are we sure it's not a decorated >> "tray".....is there indication of use with heat... >> I'm curious...we have misnomered items in our collections. >> Thanks >> Peter >> >> >> Peter Burns >> Zooarchaeology Laboratory >> Peabody Museum of Archaeology and Ethnology >> Harvard University >> 11 Divinity Avenue >> Cambridge,MA 02138 USA >> Phone: 617-495-8317 >> ________________________________________ >> From: Cooking technologies of ancient Mediterranean cultures. >> [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Julie Hruby >> [[log in to unmask]] >> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 2:59 PM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: On griddles >> >> Dear all, >> >> Welcome to the Ancient Food Tech list. In the first day of publicity, we >> had nearly 200 different people subscribe, which is fantastic! I really >> look forward to all of us having the opportunity to learn more about >> ancient foodways from each other. >> >> So, let's start in: >> There's a type of cooking pot that we know from many Mycenaean sites, >> often called a "griddle." I've uploaded a (poor quality - my apologies) >> photo of one that's on display in the Mycenae museum to Imgur, at >> http://i.imgur.com/7NvTaex.jpg. Some are quite shallow, like the one in >> the photo; others have much higher walls wrapping about 1/2 to 3/4 of the >> way around the circumference. >> >> My question is this: I've heard rumors of similar vessels occurring >> elsewhere around the Mediterranean. Can anyone share bibliography related >> to comparable vessels from outside of the modern country of Greece? Do we >> have any sense of the range of contexts from which this type of pot (or >> perhaps its relatives) might come? >> >> Thanks much, >> Julie >> >> >> -- >> Julie Hruby >> Assistant Professor of Classics >> Dartmouth College >> HB 6086 >> Hanover, NH 03755 >> (603) 646-2910 >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the ANCIENT-FOOD-TECH list, click the following link: >> http://listserv.dartmouth.edu/scripts/wa.exe?TICKET=NzM1NDc1IHBnYnVybnNARk >> FTLkhBUlZBUkQuRURVIEFOQ0lFTlQtRk9PRC1URUNIIIqWJkldaHul&c=SIGNOFF >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the ANCIENT-FOOD-TECH list, click the following link: >> http://listserv.dartmouth.edu/scripts/wa.exe?TICKET=NzM1NDc1IEp1bGllLkEuSH >> J1YnlAREFSVE1PVVRILkVEVSBBTkNJRU5ULUZPT0QtVEVDSMq24u3%2BOb7D&c=SIGNOFF > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the ANCIENT-FOOD-TECH list, click the following link: > http://listserv.dartmouth.edu/scripts/wa.exe?TICKET=NzM1NDc1IHNhbGltYWlrcmFtQEdNQUlMLkNPTSBBTkNJRU5ULUZPT0QtVEVDSKUSPnpY6%2Fuo&c=SIGNOFF ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the ANCIENT-FOOD-TECH list, click the following link: https://listserv.dartmouth.edu/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=ANCIENT-FOOD-TECH