--- Forwarded Message from "thomas plagwitz" <[log in to unmask]> --- >From: "thomas plagwitz" <[log in to unmask]> >To: "'Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum'" <[log in to unmask]> >References: <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: RE: #8809.1 (!) Robotel vs. Sanako >Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 19:13:03 +0100 >thread-index: AciZnV50//4y3uaqR5OfT/Ggj24SQQABnI9Q >In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Hi, No experience with robotel, I am afraid, but I think we had this echo issue with Sanako Lab 300 also. It was caused by feedback from the headphone speakers sending audio into the microphones if "sidetone" option (= required for a natural speaking experience when wearing headphones) is on, but no head (also required for language learning ;-) in between both to insulate.. With Sanako Study 1200, such audio feedback issues seem to be less common, I believe that is a side effect of the audio lag of 0.25sec. However, I always tell instructors to not send audio to empty seats - Sanako can put those seats into "library" or independent access mode - and my students, for not only this reason, to properly wear the headphones or only uncover one ear, vs carrying the headphone around the neck, when feedback from sidetone can also become an issue. Or they can turn sidetone off in the student player. I think one can also configure the student player to "sidetone off" by default, but, as said above, that is not desirable for the language learning experience. Let me know if I can provide additional info, thomas P.S. sending from hotmail to bypass the spam filter. -- Dr. Thomas Plagwitz e-Learning Centre Manager School of Languages and Social Sciences Aston University Birmingham, UK B4 7ET Tel: +44 (0)121 204 3797 http://www.aston.ac.uk/lss/elearningcentre/ http://www.aston.ac.uk/lss/staff/plagwitzT.jsp This E-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential to the intended recipient at the E-mail address to which it has been addressed. The E-mail may not be disclosed or used by any other than the addressee, nor may it be copied in any way. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender as soon as possible and delete any copies of this message. Please note that although this E-mail has been checked, we cannot accept any responsibility for any transmitted viruses. It is therefore your responsibility to virus scan any attachments (if any). > -----Original Message----- > From: Language Learning and Technology International > Information Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > Behalf Of LLTI-Editor > Sent: 08 April 2008 18:20 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: #8809.1 (!) Robotel vs. Sanako > > --- Forwarded Message from "Lee Ramsdell" > <[log in to unmask]> --- > > >Subject: RE: #8809 Robotel vs. Sanako > >Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 11:45:12 -0600 > >In-Reply-To: A<[log in to unmask]> > >Thread-Topic: #8809 Robotel vs. Sanako > >Thread-Index: AciY1dCyfOoR0uNkREmq2XZyUEr7ZAAACYIQ > >References: A<[log in to unmask]> > >From: "Lee Ramsdell" <[log in to unmask]> > >To: "Language Learning and Technology International > Information Forum" > <[log in to unmask]> > > We have both a Sanako 1200 and 300 system. The 300 system is > not VOIP while the Study 1200 is VOIP. While VOIP does work, > it does have a couple of niggling features, that of latency > and if the sound is on in stations that are unoccupied, there > is an annoying echo that occurs in the room. One other > benefit is that if you are use to a traditional taped based > language lab, the Sanako 300 system emulates that very closely. > > We had an old Robotel system and the instructors gave up on it. > > If you wish to call me on either of the phones listed below I > would be happy to answer any other questions. > > Lee Ramsdell, Technical Supervisor > Arts Resource Centre > Room 130 - A1, Arts Building > > Phone 780-492-2142 > Cell 780-863-4316 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Language Learning and Technology International > Information Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > Behalf Of LLTI-Editor > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 11:30 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: #8809 Robotel vs. Sanako > > Hi everyone, > > I searched the archives before this posting and I'm not > seeing much on this topic, surprisingly. The University of > Wisconsin-Stevens Point is in lab replacement mode and they > are having trouble deciding between Robotel and Sanako. For > those of you who have experience with one or both, please > send your thought on what you really like about them and what > you find difficult or frustrating? They need to make a > decision ASAP so your quick feedback is appreciated. We are > interested both in quality/flexibility of the systems > features and company support/ training. > > You can either email me and/or Richard Ruppel, [log in to unmask] > > Thanks for you time and thoughts. > > Lauren Rosen > Collaborative Language Program > University of Wisconsin > 618 Van Hise Hall > 1220 Linden Drive > Madison, WI 53706 > > [log in to unmask] > 608-262-4066 (voice) > 608-265-3892 (fax) > http://www.uwosh.edu/cols/clp/ > > *********************************************** > LLTI is a service of IALLT, the International Association > for Language Learning (http://iallt.org/), and The Consortium > for Language Teaching and Learning > (http://www.languageconsortium.org/). > Join IALLT at http://iallt.org. > Otmar Foelsche, LLTI-Editor ([log in to unmask]) > *********************************************** >