Ben, I bet it was a crow the barred owl caught. Raven are very large birds, about the size of a red tailed hawk. Barred owls have small talons for their size, too small to hold a struggling raven. A great horned owl is large-taloned owl and could and probably does, on rare occasions, nab a raven. Ted **************************************************************** To post messages, send e-mail to: [log in to unmask] Set your e-mail application to PLAIN TEXT ONLY to post messages. To contact the list owner: [log in to unmask] ---------------------------------------------------------------- Web based archives and subscription management are available at: http://listserv.dartmouth.edu/Archives/uv-birders.html ****************************************************************