Even though some scholars choose to associate the Shiwei with the Mongols, there's no evidence to suggest that the Shiwei spoke a Mongolic language. I might add that not only is there no linguistic evidence to suggest that the Shiwei spoke a Mongolic (or para-Mongolic) language, but also there is no lexical data for Shiwei at all outside of the realm of onomastics. - Andrew --------------------------------- New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big.