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Dear all,The vessel in question strongly reminds me of a baking tray typical for Iron Age Israel (found in Israelite sites but absent from Philistine sites). A short description with an extensive list of parallels can be found in the final report of Khirbet Qeiyafa excavation, by Y. Garfinkel and S. Ganor - see attached photos of the text and of an example from Qeiyafa.Best,Alla RabinovichM.A. studentHebrew University of JerusalemOn 1 August 2014 21:54, B Halpern <[log in to unmask]> wrote:EB and medieval flat baking trays in the western Levant do not exhibit perforation. --b
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:16 AM, Lindy Crewe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Dear all,
We have similar from Early-Middle BA Cyprus. Very coarse, low fired, flat base with walls up to 30mm high. Slipped on the interior but rough on the exterior. The holes (c. 1mm diameter) are perforated from the base to c. 2mm from the top. The most comprehensive discussion is in Frankel and Webb 1996
Best,
Lindy
Dr Lindy CreweLecturer in ArchaeologyUniversity of ManchesterMansfield Cooper BuildingOxford RoadManchester M13 9PL
From: "Julie A. Hruby" <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To: "Cooking technologies of ancient Mediterranean cultures." <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Friday, 1 August 2014 02:28
To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: On griddles, continued
With all apologies for lumping replies to several different emails, for efficiency’s sake:
- Theoretically, they may have been used to separate substances, but if so, it was likely done in the presence of heat; the photo I posted wasn’t a particularly good one for demonstrating this, but more often than not, they do have clear evidence of having been used over a fire. The one example that I know of that was residue tested supposedly had oil and grain residues, but I don’t believe the scientific evidence for that was published.
- The holes don’t go through, so they probably weren’t used as sieves, though there are contemporaneous perforated implements that make good candidates for that function.
- Yes, one of my students (a joint studio art ceramics and art history major) and I replicated this shape. We were able to make relatively good flatbread, and after giving a brief talk at the AIA meetings in January, we got rather a lot of press. The press was somewhat more variable in quality than the bread was.
- Thanks, all, for the many comparanda; they’re much appreciated. Does anyone know of examples from the Early Iron Age outside of Greece? I’ve heard that there might be a similar Phoenician shape but haven’t seen published examples.
Best,Julie
--Julie HrubyAssistant Professor of ClassicsDartmouth CollegeHB 6086Hanover, NH 03755
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On 1 August 2014 21:54, B Halpern <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
EB and medieval flat baking trays in the western Levant do not exhibit perforation. --b
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:16 AM, Lindy Crewe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Dear all,
We have similar from Early-Middle BA Cyprus. Very coarse, low fired, flat base with walls up to 30mm high. Slipped on the interior but rough on the exterior. The holes (c. 1mm diameter) are perforated from the base to c. 2mm from the top. The most comprehensive discussion is in Frankel and Webb 1996
Best,
Lindy
Dr Lindy CreweLecturer in ArchaeologyUniversity of ManchesterMansfield Cooper BuildingOxford RoadManchester M13 9PL
From: "Julie A. Hruby" <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To: "Cooking technologies of ancient Mediterranean cultures." <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Friday, 1 August 2014 02:28
To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: On griddles, continued
With all apologies for lumping replies to several different emails, for efficiency’s sake:
- Theoretically, they may have been used to separate substances, but if so, it was likely done in the presence of heat; the photo I posted wasn’t a particularly good one for demonstrating this, but more often than not, they do have clear evidence of having been used over a fire. The one example that I know of that was residue tested supposedly had oil and grain residues, but I don’t believe the scientific evidence for that was published.
- The holes don’t go through, so they probably weren’t used as sieves, though there are contemporaneous perforated implements that make good candidates for that function.
- Yes, one of my students (a joint studio art ceramics and art history major) and I replicated this shape. We were able to make relatively good flatbread, and after giving a brief talk at the AIA meetings in January, we got rather a lot of press. The press was somewhat more variable in quality than the bread was.
- Thanks, all, for the many comparanda; they’re much appreciated. Does anyone know of examples from the Early Iron Age outside of Greece? I’ve heard that there might be a similar Phoenician shape but haven’t seen published examples.
Best,Julie
--Julie HrubyAssistant Professor of ClassicsDartmouth CollegeHB 6086Hanover, NH 03755
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