>The easy solution, if you want to distinguish the 2 and not get them >confused with quote glyphs, is found in the Special Characters >Palette, not in the 'Arabic' submenu, but under 'Writing', where >Left and Right Half Rings appear. Exactly what is needed! Useful! > >Now if I could just remember which is which! I get it right 50% of the time. The glyph for the ayn resembles its (free standing or left-bound) Arabic original in shape, so it is the "left half ring". (Okay, hamza also originates in the sign for ayn, but it is smaller, obviously.) -wp