>Geoff, it'd be easier to take your comments if you knew what the >fuck you were talking about. I didn't know the guy, but your posting >is fairly devoid of fact and shouldn't go unanswered. > >Now that I have your attention ;-) Excellent corrective, Julian, and I thank you for it. That places him a lot more to the human side than had been giving him credit for. Nevertheless it's still far from the angelic side that's been the stuff of the obits and tributes that have been floating past. On the origins of the Mac -- I did hear some stuff on radio here from another guy who was supposed to be there at the time. Perhaps I misunderstood which computer he was talking about. As for 80 hours a week? You must all be mad . . . Simple arithmetic tells me that doesn't make for much time with the family. Cheers, geoff