So is it circumventing the coding to take the analog output of a DVD player and send it to a digital media converter to capture the video with or without subtitles? I know the quality is slightly lower but by the time you compress it it shouldn't make any difference. Tom Browne On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 1:20 PM, LLTI-Editor <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > --- Forwarded Message from Judy Shoaf <[log in to unmask]> --- > > >Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:04:08 -0400 > >From: Judy Shoaf <[log in to unmask]> > >User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) > >To: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum > <[log in to unmask]> > >Subject: Video clips and copyright ONE MORE TIME > >References: <[log in to unmask]> > >In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> > > OK, this is a complicated website Mr. Handman has put up. I made 2 posts > already, relevant to streaming video, but this one is different. > > THIS is his letter re. circumventing access controls in making clips: > > http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/dmcacomments.pdf > > At the bottom of this page, > http://mrcstream.wordpress.com/category/dmca-comments/ > you can enter comments supporting his initiative. > > This is a significant effort we IALLT folks can make, since clips from > DVDs with varying subtitles (none, same-language, English) are so useful > in teaching. > > Right now it is illegal to make such clips for classroom teaching from > DVDs which have technical access controls (coding), including of course > region coding. > > It is legal to make them from, say, a VHS tape, or a DVD which has no > such encoding; however, most DVDs DO have the encoding > > The current state of rulemaking allows film and media professors to > circumvent coding to make clips for classroom teaching, but not other > teachers. > > So the request Mr. Handman is offering is for the right of all teachers > to circumvent the coding in making clips. > > Judy Shoaf > > > > > *********************************************** > LLTI is a service of IALLT, the International Association for > Language Learning (http://iallt.org/), and The Consortium for Language > Teaching > and Learning (http://www.languageconsortium.org/). > Join IALLT at http://iallt.org. > Otmar Foelsche, LLTI-Editor ([log in to unmask]) > ***********************************************