--- Forwarded Message from "Steve & Laura Spinella" <[log in to unmask]> --- >DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:reply-to:from:to:references :subject:date:organization:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:in-reply-to:thread-index :x-mimeole; bh=jabC6sK4dwbJ42CDHaOEHor+m5CsZI9TpbTfYJ/Uxho=; b=x9u/4F298UIpDGU/eeZhcYGuH+ali2NQ2wx8nAyS5tkA7kmWqqLFPVuQjs0eYcbL+O EdGVhLZfNguKDnAFpLoR+bjnUXqRZyDDEc1rHfGFpbglMLp6KxvpQLQOH/sDW6vQKjHf JDEUpgCsoaWp+wogEmeu+GBg+vn5ddmZZ9cH0= >DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=reply-to:from:to:references:subject:date:organization:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :in-reply-to:thread-index:x-mimeole; b=JUdo+6Wl3qGSLSpSLvpfKVt5DErngIgXDHkfQnwY6t8FzNFM+I6TAKSfJjXfafmZTp pFffZlsrOdxYwnvw5bctO+PB7KKkJv9pHlv50I/mp29vTGJ2xcxJelbFxSK6b527hyZD QkIRrWlMlh9jFM0Tu8NiWFR8b/wtTHPjNPkSA= >Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> >From: "Steve & Laura Spinella" <[log in to unmask]> >To: "'LLTI-Editor'" <[log in to unmask]> >References: >Subject: RE: #8859 Legality of non-Region-1 DVDs >Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:18:58 +0800 >Organization: TEAM/CCG >In-Reply-To: >Thread-Index: AcjKr1+9VzKtxOZvSIms8w4t63zlqAACJqmg A couple comments: 1) region 3 does not include china, it does include Taiwan, Thailand, and other parts of asia. 2) I don't think there is anything in copyright law regarding the international transport of legal copies, is there? As an international, that would be, to say the least, inconvenient :-) 3) It's pretty obvious that the regions were enacted by an industry to maximize it's ability to profit internationally by discriminatory pricing and release in various geographic regions. (In the previous sentence, I'm attempting to use discriminatory in a non-perjorative sense ;-) That's why China gets its own region separate from Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Singapore, right? Of course, I'm sure industry reps would add that they hoped this would help limit piracy. PS Fortunately for me I can buy both DVDs with Chinese and English soundtracks and subtitles and players for region 3 right here in Taiwan :-)--of course, only when the industry is kind enough to publish such, typically only for the largest selling children's mass market titles. Dr. Steve Spinella, Center for Counseling & Growth Da Yi Street, Lane 29, #26, 2F-1, Taichung 40454, TAIWAN 011.886.4.2236.1901, fx 4.2236.2109, cell 9.2894.0514 <www.team.org.tw/ccg>, <[log in to unmask]> -----Original Message----- From: LLTI-Editor [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:00 AM Subject: #8859 Legality of non-Region-1 DVDs --- Forwarded Message from Judy Shoaf <[log in to unmask]> --- >Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:56:54 -0400 >From: Judy Shoaf <[log in to unmask]> >User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) >To: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Legality of non-Region-1 DVDs I have been spending some time on the Videolib list and the following article spiked a discussion there: http://www.cleveland.com/plaindealer/stories/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/121222 3071 195010.xml&coll=2 The consensus of Videolib (librarians and reps of various DVD rights holders) was that, no matter what the article says, the DVDs in question were undoubtedly Chinese bootleg versions of the materials, and therefore illegal. The article, however, is claiming that the DVDs owned by the public library are copies fully licensed for manufacture and distribution in Region 3. Their illegality would depend on a proposition that the DVD regions are not a matter of encoding but of geography: one cannot sell (or buy) a DVD outside its region. The only thing I can think of would be that the Chinese distributor has a contract specifically prohibiting sale to the US. But the article implies that this is an appeal to or test of copyright law itself. NB the region coding is evidently not being circumvented, since the players involved supposedly match the region code. In what I have read of cases re. this law, it should be perfectly legal for an individual to play non-region-1 DVDs so long as no region-free player is involved (e.g. it can be legally played on a computer drive or a region-specific player). Comments? Judy Shoaf *********************************************** LLTI is a service of IALLT, the International Association for Language Learning Technology (http://iallt.org/), and The Consortium for Language Teaching and Learning (http://www.languageconsortium.org/). Join IALLT at http://iallt.org. Otmar Foelsche, LLTI-Editor ([log in to unmask]) ***********************************************