I am running Mac OS 10.4.7 on various G4's and G5's. While I don't use Keyboard Viewer all that much, I find its behavior to be reliable and predictable. Are my computers working better than those described by others in this thread? Or am I content with features that are problematic for others? Are the Intel Macs behaving differently than the G4's and G5's in this regard? When I select Keyboard Viewer in Word, or in any other application, the Keyboard Viewer window pops up for the currently selected keyboard. If I change keyboards, using the flag icon in the menu bar, the Keyboard Viewer window immediately changes to the newly-selcted keyboard. If I launch a new application, the Keyboard Viewer will be visible for the new application, showing the most recently selected keyboard. This makes sense to me. Confusion may stem from an interesting feature of keyboard selection (and consequently, of the Keyboard Viewer). Keyboard selection is now window-specific (beginning with some version of Tiger). Each window can have a different keyboard selected, both for general typing and for Keyboard Viewer. For example, I can type in one document window with a French keyboard, and in another with a Spanish keyboard. Switching between windows will switch the selected keyboard, and the Keyboard Viewer, if it is open. Now and then, I find this to be very handy. On a busy day, I may be working on a document in English in Nisus Writer Express, editing Spanish exam questions in one Word document, while preparing a French viewing schedule in another Word document, and answering an email in Esperanto. I can set my desired keyboard for each task and window, and then click between windows freely. Each window will retain my desired keyboard. The original poster indicated that while working in Word, "I have to click on the desktop and then scroll the flag to the proper keyboard." I find this curious. I can change keyboards freely within Word, and I never have to click on the Desktop. The poster then reports, "When I click back into Word, however, the keyboard viewer reverts back to the U.S. keyboard." I think this is just an example of the window-specific nature of keyboard selection. I would restate the observation in different terms: Clicking back into Word doesn't revert to the US keyboard. Rather, it retains my previous keyboard selection for that window, which might have been US, Spanish, French, Dvorak, or another. I can select a different keyboard in the Desktop, without affecting the keyboard previously selected for each window of any open applications. (However, I don't see any value in selecting a keyboard for the Desktop. I find that, unlike any application window, the Desktop doesn't retain its own keyboard setting). In contrast to Keola, I find that Tiger (OS 10.4.7) not only retains the keyboard choice for a given application, it remembers the keyboard selection independently for each open window within an application. For me, Panther 10.3.9 was neither window-specific nor application specific. When I selected a keyboard in one application, it would affect all other applications and windows. I would be interested in hearing what behavior other Mac users experience, and whether the Intel Macs act differently than the PowerPCs. Derek > Aloha. I began noticing this behavior with the first release of OS X 10.4. > Previously it remembered your keyboard choice within an application, but > now it does not. I've notified some people at Apple about this, but it > seems that this is what they consider the desired behavior. I've not found > any way to remedy this; there is no setting for it that I have been able > to locate. If anyone else has I'd appreciate hearing about it myself. > >> Has anyone come across this issue? I've set keyboards for all the FLs we >> cover on an Intel Mac. When I'm in Word testing the various FL keyboards >> and I bring up the keyboard viewer to use while typing, I have to click >> on the desktop and then scroll the flag to the proper keyboard. I see >> the change on the keyboard viewer fine as it should be. When I click >> back into >> Word, however, the keyboard viewer reverts back to the U.S. keyboard. Derek Roff Language Learning Center Ortega Hall 129, MSC03-2100 University of New Mexico Albuquerque, NM 87131-0001 505/277-7368, fax 505/277-3885 Internet: [log in to unmask] *********************************************** LLTI is a service of IALLT, the International Association for Language Learning (http://iallt.org/), and The Consortium for Language Teaching and Learning (http://www.languageconsortium.org/). Join IALLT at http://iallt.org. Otmar Foelsche, LLTI-Editor ([log in to unmask]) ***********************************************