5 ************** from [log in to unmask] Henry and Others, You have started an interesting thread. Let me clarify some discussion about Sanako software. Henry suggested that Sanako only used proprietary formats; however, I have used Sanako products for many years now, and their Labs, including the Sanako Media Assistant, are designed NOT to be exclusive and proprietary systems alone. In fact, the great thing about this Assistant is that it can handle all major media file types including MP3, .wav, .wma (Windows Media), and .rm (RealMedia), so you have a great deal of flexibility and ease in the type s of media files you author and play. Yes, users can author materials for specific use with Sanako Labs, but it appears to me that the company's goal is far reaching in that you have a great deal of flexibility. Furthermore, one of the pedagogically-attractive features of the Sanako Media Assistant is Variable Speed Control, thus allowing users to control media playback. I would sugggest visiting their site at www.sanako.com and join the forum s to ask questions from teachers who use their products. Having developed multimedia for the Web for many years, I would at least suggest people taking a careful look at any Lab system and contact people who use them on a daily basis. Randall Davis www.esl-lab.com ______ Henry Wilmer wrote: One of major differences is that Sony produces files in standard formats (mp3, WAV) etc. while Sanako uses some proprietary codecs. It's possible to convert these to mp3's, but it's a bit of a pain. Henry Wilmer Director, Language Learning Center Phillips Academy, Andover, MA 978-749-4201 6 ************** from [log in to unmask] Our 2001 Tandberg system (i.e. Sanako) produces a choice of mp3s or .wav (and also reads .rm though with reduced functionality). It also produces proprietary files, .dim and .dis files, but these are not exactly codecs. They are files which maintain a relationship between the original master track and an added track, which could be audio or textual or just a set of "bookmarks" locating particular points in the master track (or it could be all three). So they have a separate function, and actually get used a bit in the lab. If a student has mistakenly saved a file in a proprietary format the student audio track can be disembedded by opening it in Divace (now renamed Media Assistant), recording a couple more seconds, and saving it in the desired format. As we are looking forward to upgrading, I sure hope that the new software handles and saves in at least all the same formats....???? Judy 7 **************** from [log in to unmask] Chris, I have used Sanako systems for years as a teacher and lab coordinator, an d I have been very pleased with the results from a pedagogical standpoint. Just keep in mind that whatever you choose, technology is not a method, but only a support to achieving our objectives. Unfortunately, I have see n many computer labs around the world that have been relegated to souped-up typerwriters because the vision of what computers can and cannot do wasn' t there. For Sanako, I suggest you visit their forums to ask questions from teachers who use their products (www.sanako.com). Randall Davis www.esl-lab.com *********************************************** LLTI is a service of IALLT, the International Association for Language Learning, and The Consortium for Language Teaching and Learning (http://consortium.dartmouth.edu). Join IALLT at http://iallt.org. Otmar Foelsche, LLTI-Editor ([log in to unmask]) ***********************************************