-----------1- from Eric Granquist <[log in to unmask] Deep Freeze really turned things around for me--messing with windows permissions was eating me alive before. I'm a real skeptic, but this is one really great piece of work. Best of all is a combination of image-distribution software (ghost, altiris, etc), and then lock them down w/ deep freeze. Intelligent support, too. It's been my secret weapon for several years, and now I see our IT dept finally buying it. So far, I've been using standard, but we're going to coattail on our IT dept's enterprise purchase this summer. Good luck Eric ----------2- from [log in to unmask] Dear Tom, I'm at Holy Cross and can't take credit for it but my predessor installed and found it for ITS! It's amazingly effective against invasive installations and it's so efficient that even I forget that it's there (which can be annoying for re-installs) If you don't have the buy-in from IT or depending on the how much time you have, 38 machines does seem like enterprise level. (And that would be a nice step to standardizing your lab for updates as well if you have your own server.) I'd be careful with permissions settings but trial and error is how we learn. I'm very happy with it. -Holly ---------3- from [log in to unmask] Hi Tom - I'm using DeepFreeze Enterprise in 4 labs, approximately 100 machines (both limited user and admin accounts). The central console is installed on an XP Workstation instead of a server because we really aren't a Microsoft shop. I would recommend the Enterprise version because of the console functionality. It allows restarting, thawing, and freezing of single or multiple machines simultaneously. I have generally been impressed with the product. We have DeepFreeze installed in seed form in our main image. We initially had some problems when imaging with DeepFreeze thawed, which is why we moved to seeding. The seed allows us to see the computers in the central DF console. We use the console to install DeepFreeze and enable it. We redirect My Documents to a thawspace in three of our labs, but the fourth lab has everything frozen. Norton is installed and updates on boot. I have had difficulties with the automatic update feature. Supposedly you can schedule a time for machines to automatically thaw, run Windows Updates or other types of batch files, and then refreeze. The scheduled thaw happens, but my XP boxes don't necessarily update. The console makes it fairly easy to thaw the machines and run the Updates independently, but it's a bit of pain. I'm waiting to hear back from Faronics about the problem. I think that the key to a successful DeepFreeze deployment is testing. You have to be sure that everything is in place and working so you aren't continually thawing and freezing. Let me know if you have any further questions. Susan C. Weier InfoLab Manager Learning Support Services 279 Van Hise Hall [log in to unmask] *********************************************** LLTI is a service of IALLT, the International Association for Language Learning, and The Consortium for Language Teaching and Learning (http://consortium.dartmouth.edu). Join IALLT at http://iallt.org. Otmar Foelsche, LLTI-Editor ([log in to unmask]) ***********************************************