Hi, all,
  
  Also, there we can reconstruct some Xianbi forms, and we can  reconstruct something of other "Xianbeic" languages... for Tuoba  (Tabgach), the language of the Northern Wei (386-534 C.E.), we can  reconstruct around 14 or so words, for Tuyuhun (also known as 'A-zha) -  around 5 words, and some scholars like to interpret the Shiwei clan  name Mengwu (Early Middle Chinese *mewng-ngo) as the earliest  occurrence of the name "Mongol" and evidence that the Mongols and  Xianbei peoples both came from the Donghu (there are many assumptions  involved in this hypothesis). In addition, the glossary of the Liao Annals (Ch. Liao Shi) lists a few Xi titles... one which seems to be cognate to Mongolic and Uygur törü  'law, power, order, regime, rule, government, state' (although titles  are admittedly nearly useless in language classification).
  
  - Andrew Shimunek

Pamela Crossley <[log in to unmask]> wrote:  A recent discussion with Wei Yu Tan about his research on Kitan  
reconstruction, and what appear to be a surprising (to me) degree of  
Jurchen elements, has raised the question for me of how much work has  
been done on northern Manchurian languages before the 12th century  
Jurchens. Are there reconstructions or theoretical descriptions of  
Mohe?  Just wondering how old these influence might be in Kitan. 


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