--- Forwarded Message from "Vance, Jason" <[log in to unmask]> --- >Subject: RE: #8073.3 Self-study software recommendations? (!) >Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:13:22 -0500 >Thread-Topic: #8073.3 Self-study software recommendations? (!) >Thread-Index: AcXjyC0rFJGrWr+0S/mQ2WW5KuhPcQABv5og >From: "Vance, Jason" <[log in to unmask]> >To: "Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum" <[log in to unmask]> Another is the Rosetta Stone. Northern Virginia Community College on the Alexandria Campus is using it to a small degree. Jason Vance, Supervisor Language Learning Center Thomas Nelson Community College PO BOX 9407 Hampton, Virginia 23670 757-825-2819(Office) 757-825-3807(fax) -----Original Message----- From: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of LLTI-Editor Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:22 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: #8073.3 Self-study software recommendations? (!) --- Forwarded Message from Thomas Hunsaker <[log in to unmask]> --- >From: Thomas Hunsaker <[log in to unmask]> >To: "'LLTI-Editor'" <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: RE: #8073.1 Self-study software recommendations? (!) >Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 06:46:17 -0700 It would be a mistake to make a decision on self-paced language training software without considering the TeLL me More program by Auralog. Some pretty intriguing institutions consider TeLL me More an important part of their language learning environment (University of Michigan, Rice University, Clemson University, North Carolina State, Virginia Commonwealth, IBM, Exxon Mobil, Toyota, Sony, BMW, - just to name a few). -----Original Message----- From: LLTI-Editor [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 1:43 PM Subject: Re: #8073.1 Self-study software recommendations? (!) --- Forwarded Message from "Herb Martin" <[log in to unmask]> --- >From: "Herb Martin" <[log in to unmask]> >To: "'Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum'" <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: RE: #8073 Self-study software recommendations? >Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 19:54:29 -0600 >Organization: LearnQuick.Com >In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> >Thread-Index: AcXf8i4xUukfQz+YQL2BWb2cH9Wk1AAJR6WQ > >Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 16:33:53 -0500 > >From: "David Flores" <[log in to unmask]> > >To: <[log in to unmask]> > >Subject: Self-study software recommendations? > > I'm interested in any recommendations people might have for self-study > computer based language learning materials. What sorts of resources do > you make available for students who would like to learn a foreign > language that is now currently taught at your institutions? What > software packages do you use/recommend? I am particularly > curious about > copyright issues. Some time ago I purchased a software package for > evaluation purposes and was very distraught to discover that it > specifically prohibited libraries of educational institutions from > lending/making the materials in question available to patrons. For those who have found language learning easy their entire life this may read like, "So what? Big deal..." but after trying to learn languages all of my life with reasonable but limited (less than fluent) success, I have over the last coupld of years developed what is a 2-10 times better method using the computer and Mp3 style players etc. I cannot recommend "The Rosetta Stone" highly enough, except in one department: It is somewhat expensive (all 2 or 3 levels depending on the language). It works but nothing is sufficient alone. Supplementing it with the (free) Pauker flashcard program, and finding the 1000-5000 most commonly used words of the target language and just ploughing through them makes everything else you study easier, and got me to the point in Spanish where I was reading entire adult novels within three months of starting my first study. Arabic was a bit slower, but faster than my previous experience with German, French and several other languages. By six months this method had me reading as a self- stustaining exercise that was actually enjoyable; all of the Harry Potter books and then such items as "The Da Vinci Code". For speaking and comprehension I prefer the use one of the (cheaper) CD sets as I find Pimsleur to be vastly overrated, especially for the price. The audio 'flashcards' in Vocabulearn are available for several language in a $65 kit with two other programs ("Learn in Your Car" and another) for less then $65 mail order and are a much better value. Technically this is not software but I make MP3s or WMA on my computer, listen there, or download to my PDA/MP3 player and carry it with me everywhere. Having an online, or local application dictionary is a great help -- and when away from my computer I use one of the inexpensive (e.g., Ectaco) PDA dictionaries in general preference to a paper dictionary since it is "always available" as I carry my PDA as a phone, and for listening to the MP3s. (Of course a quality paper dictionary is a great thing to have also.) -- Herb Martin > -----Original Message----- > From: Language Learning and Technology International > Information Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > Behalf Of LLTI-Editor > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 12:17 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: #8073 Self-study software recommendations? > > --- Forwarded Message from "David Flores" <[log in to unmask]> --- > > >Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 16:33:53 -0500 > >From: "David Flores" <[log in to unmask]> > >To: <[log in to unmask]> > >Subject: Self-study software recommendations? > > I'm interested in any recommendations people might have for self-study > computer based language learning materials. What sorts of resources do > you make available for students who would like to learn a foreign > language that is now currently taught at your institutions? What > software packages do you use/recommend? I am particularly > curious about > copyright issues. Some time ago I purchased a software package for > evaluation purposes and was very distraught to discover that it > specifically prohibited libraries of educational institutions from > lending/making the materials in question available to patrons. > > David Flores > Director: Language Learning Center > Loyola College in Maryland > 4501 North Charles Street > Baltimore, MD 21210 > Ph: (410) 617-5230 > Fax: (410) 617 2859 > > > *********************************************** > LLTI is a service of IALLT, the International Association for > Language Learning, and The Consortium for Language Teaching and > Learning (http://consortium.dartmouth.edu). > Join IALLT at http://iallt.org. > Otmar Foelsche, LLTI-Editor ([log in to unmask]) > *********************************************** >