--- Forwarded Message from [log in to unmask] --- >Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 17:26:46 -0500 >From: [log in to unmask] >To: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: #8073.4 Self-study software recommendations? (!) >References: <[log in to unmask]> >In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> >User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 Dear All, Along these lines, a chemistry professor on my campus asked if I could recommend self-study that he can use in his car on a long daily commute to resurrect his college German. Does anyone have a suggestion that I can pass on? Thanks for your help. Janice -------------------- Janice E. Rodriguez Instructor Department of Modern Foreign Languages and Literatures Albright College 13 and Bern Streets Reading, PA 19612-5234 610-921-2381 Quoting LLTI-Editor <[log in to unmask]>: > --- Forwarded Message from "Vance, Jason" <[log in to unmask]> --- > > >Subject: RE: #8073.3 Self-study software recommendations? (!) > >Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 14:13:22 -0500 > >Thread-Topic: #8073.3 Self-study software recommendations? (!) > >Thread-Index: AcXjyC0rFJGrWr+0S/mQ2WW5KuhPcQABv5og > >From: "Vance, Jason" <[log in to unmask]> > >To: "Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum" > <[log in to unmask]> > > Another is the Rosetta Stone. Northern Virginia Community College on the > Alexandria Campus is using it to a small degree. > > Jason Vance, Supervisor > Language Learning Center > Thomas Nelson Community College > PO BOX 9407 > Hampton, Virginia 23670 > 757-825-2819(Office) > 757-825-3807(fax) > -----Original Message----- > From: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of LLTI-Editor > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:22 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: #8073.3 Self-study software recommendations? (!) > > --- Forwarded Message from Thomas Hunsaker > <[log in to unmask]> --- > > >From: Thomas Hunsaker <[log in to unmask]> > >To: "'LLTI-Editor'" <[log in to unmask]> > >Subject: RE: #8073.1 Self-study software recommendations? (!) > >Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 06:46:17 -0700 > > It would be a mistake to make a decision on self-paced language training > software without considering the TeLL me More program by Auralog. Some > pretty intriguing institutions consider TeLL me More an important part > of > their language learning environment (University of Michigan, Rice > University, Clemson University, North Carolina State, Virginia > Commonwealth, > IBM, Exxon Mobil, Toyota, Sony, BMW, - just to name a few). > > -----Original Message----- > From: LLTI-Editor [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 1:43 PM > Subject: Re: #8073.1 Self-study software recommendations? (!) > > --- Forwarded Message from "Herb Martin" <[log in to unmask]> --- > > >From: "Herb Martin" <[log in to unmask]> > >To: "'Language Learning and Technology International Information > Forum'" > <[log in to unmask]> > >Subject: RE: #8073 Self-study software recommendations? > >Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 19:54:29 -0600 > >Organization: LearnQuick.Com > >In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> > >Thread-Index: AcXf8i4xUukfQz+YQL2BWb2cH9Wk1AAJR6WQ > > > >Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 16:33:53 -0500 > > >From: "David Flores" <[log in to unmask]> > > >To: <[log in to unmask]> > > >Subject: Self-study software recommendations? > > > > I'm interested in any recommendations people might have for self-study > > computer based language learning materials. What sorts of resources do > > you make available for students who would like to learn a foreign > > language that is now currently taught at your institutions? What > > software packages do you use/recommend? I am particularly > > curious about > > copyright issues. Some time ago I purchased a software package for > > evaluation purposes and was very distraught to discover that it > > specifically prohibited libraries of educational institutions from > > lending/making the materials in question available to patrons. > > For those who have found language learning > easy their entire life this may read like, > "So what? Big deal..." but after trying to > learn languages all of my life with reasonable > but limited (less than fluent) success, I have > over the last coupld of years developed what > is a 2-10 times better method using the computer > and Mp3 style players etc. > > I cannot recommend "The Rosetta Stone" highly > enough, except in one department: It is somewhat > expensive (all 2 or 3 levels depending on the > language). It works but nothing is sufficient > alone. > > Supplementing it with the (free) Pauker flashcard > program, and finding the 1000-5000 most commonly > used words of the target language and just ploughing > through them makes everything else you study easier, > and got me to the point in Spanish where I was > reading entire adult novels within three months of > starting my first study. > > Arabic was a bit slower, but faster than my previous > experience with German, French and several other > languages. > > By six months this method had me reading as a self- > stustaining exercise that was actually enjoyable; > all of the Harry Potter books and then such items > as "The Da Vinci Code". > > For speaking and comprehension I prefer the > use one of the (cheaper) CD sets as I find > Pimsleur to be vastly overrated, especially > for the price. The audio 'flashcards' in > Vocabulearn are available for several language > in a $65 kit with two other programs ("Learn > in Your Car" and another) for less then $65 > mail order and are a much better value. > > Technically this is not software but I make > MP3s or WMA on my computer, listen there, or > download to my PDA/MP3 player and carry it > with me everywhere. > > Having an online, or local application dictionary > is a great help -- and when away from my computer > I use one of the inexpensive (e.g., Ectaco) > PDA dictionaries in general preference to a paper > dictionary since it is "always available" as I > carry my PDA as a phone, and for listening to the > MP3s. > > (Of course a quality paper dictionary is a great > thing to have also.) > > -- > Herb Martin > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Language Learning and Technology International > > Information Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > > Behalf Of LLTI-Editor > > Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 12:17 PM > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: #8073 Self-study software recommendations? > > > > --- Forwarded Message from "David Flores" <[log in to unmask]> --- > > > > >Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 16:33:53 -0500 > > >From: "David Flores" <[log in to unmask]> > > >To: <[log in to unmask]> > > >Subject: Self-study software recommendations? > > > > I'm interested in any recommendations people might have for self-study > > computer based language learning materials. What sorts of resources do > > you make available for students who would like to learn a foreign > > language that is now currently taught at your institutions? What > > software packages do you use/recommend? I am particularly > > curious about > > copyright issues. Some time ago I purchased a software package for > > evaluation purposes and was very distraught to discover that it > > specifically prohibited libraries of educational institutions from > > lending/making the materials in question available to patrons. > > > > David Flores > > Director: Language Learning Center > > Loyola College in Maryland > > 4501 North Charles Street > > Baltimore, MD 21210 > > Ph: (410) 617-5230 > > Fax: (410) 617 2859 > > > > > > *********************************************** > > LLTI is a service of IALLT, the International Association for > > Language Learning, and The Consortium for Language Teaching and > > Learning (http://consortium.dartmouth.edu). > > Join IALLT at http://iallt.org. > > Otmar Foelsche, LLTI-Editor ([log in to unmask]) > > ***********************************************