--- Forwarded Message from "Susan Breeyear" <[log in to unmask]> --- >Subject: Language Lab Software (!) >Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 09:14:37 -0400 >Thread-Topic: Language Lab Software (!) >Thread-Index: AcW4q8bHm6uPHjsITjKHxHkJtF0tPgAgY8RA >From: "Susan Breeyear" <[log in to unmask]> >To: "Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum" <[log in to unmask]> Let me just say this about that...we've had CAN-8 for three years now, and although it certainly has a lot of functions, I've never seen such a clunky interface in my life. We're looking for a new solution because our faculty, with maybe three exceptions, has not been able to learn how to author in the system. We've given workshops, had CAN-8 people here to train, written handbooks, given out the CAN-8 documents that are available...nothing seems to work unless the instructor is highly motivated to use it--none of your "casual" users will be able to remember from one time to the next. The program is unintuitive and bears a strong resemblance to the old DOS system. Sorry to be so negative, but we've had nothing but headaches with this program. I know there are other schools who have been more successful, but it's not for us! Cheers, Sue the Grouch Susan Breeyear Assistant Director, IT Instructional Technology Services St. Michael's College Box C, One Winooski Park Colchester, VT 05439 802 654-2821 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:24:05 EDT From: LLTI-Editor <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: #7992.1 Language Lab Software (!) --- Forwarded Message from Chris Hall <[log in to unmask]> --- >Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:39:42 -0400 >From: Chris Hall <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: RE: #7992 Language Lab Software >In-reply-to: <[log in to unmask]> >To: "'Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum'" <[log in to unmask]> >Thread-index: AcW1YvdH5XKDbwDuS/WugdEqlM44GwAAjE2A I would heartily recommend looking into CAN-8 for real-time audio. It has a great Babilon feature that allows group discussions. See www.can8.com I've had 40 simultaneous users here at the French lab and it has never once crashed! Chris Hall Lab Technician Vanier College Montreal Qc -----Original Message----- From: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of LLTI-Editor Sent: September 9, 2005 1:22 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: #7992 Language Lab Software --- Forwarded Message from "Daniel M. Wescovich" <[log in to unmask]> --- Can anyone tell me what software can emulate the old language lab system capabilities such as realtime audio communication, grouping, pairing, etc? I am having trouble finding a solution that works. Daniel M. Wescovich Coordinator Language Learning Center Saint Louis University *********************************************** LLTI is a service of IALLT, the International Association for Language Learning, and The Consortium for Language Teaching and Learning (http://consortium.dartmouth.edu). Join IALLT at http://iallt.org. Otmar Foelsche, LLTI-Editor ([log in to unmask]) *********************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:24:08 EDT From: LLTI-Editor <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: #7992.3 Language Lab Software (!) --- Forwarded Message from Judy Shoaf <[log in to unmask]> --- >Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:24:38 -0400 >From: Judy Shoaf <[log in to unmask]> >User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050414 >To: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: #7992 Language Lab Software >References: <[log in to unmask]> >In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> For a system that really emulates the old Sony or Tandberg labs, I guess Sony and Tandberg might be the best vendors for digital language labs.... We have a Tandberg lab (the company's name is now Sanako) installed in 2001 and it's holding up well. It does all the things that the cassette lab did and more and better (how about animated digital handouts instead of xeroxed ones?). The downside is that it's expensive, as the old labs were, and gets upgraded more often since it has to, to keep up with computer developments. And you have to buy the computers and replace them etc. too. Judy Shoaf University of Florida LLTI-Editor wrote: > --- Forwarded Message from "Daniel M. Wescovich" <[log in to unmask]> --- > > Can anyone tell me what software can emulate the old language lab > system capabilities such as realtime audio communication, grouping, > pairing, etc? I am having trouble finding a solution that works. > > Daniel M. Wescovich > > Coordinator > Language Learning Center > Saint Louis University > > > > > *********************************************** > LLTI is a service of IALLT, the International Association for > Language Learning, and The Consortium for Language Teaching and > Learning (http://consortium.dartmouth.edu). > Join IALLT at http://iallt.org. > Otmar Foelsche, LLTI-Editor ([log in to unmask]) > *********************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:24:09 EDT From: LLTI-Editor <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: #7992.4 Language Lab Software (!) --- Forwarded Message from Judy Shoaf <[log in to unmask]> --- >Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:30:20 -0400 >From: Judy Shoaf <[log in to unmask]> >User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.7) Gecko/20050414 >To: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: #7992 Language Lab Software >References: <[log in to unmask]> >In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Oops--forgot to mention, though I trust others will not-- Digital Language Lab Solutions Edited by Jack Burston (c) 2005. The great diversity of available digital language lab programs makes for a bewildering array of technical specifications, requirements, and product features. The purpose of this volume is to sort through these details as comprehensively as possible to allow informed decisions to be made about their acquisition. Packaged in a loose-leaf binder so new components may be added as completed. Can be ordered at http://www.iallt.org/iallt_services/iallt_publications.html Judy *********************************************** LLTI is a service of IALLT, the International Association for Language Learning, and The Consortium for Language Teaching and Learning (http://consortium.dartmouth.edu). Join IALLT at http://iallt.org. Otmar Foelsche, LLTI-Editor ([log in to unmask]) *********************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:24:10 EDT From: LLTI-Editor <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: #7992.5 Language Lab Software (!) --- Forwarded Message from Karl Fisher <[log in to unmask]> --- >In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> >Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:50:55 -0500 >To: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum <[log in to unmask]> >From: Karl Fisher <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: #7992 Language Lab Software >Cc: [log in to unmask] Hi, Daniel; Check out the Sanako Lab 100 (formerly Tandberg Elice). It does all of that and more, and it is truly a "plug and play" system. It runs on Windows OS with a Linux server box for the audio library. Since there is only one computer (students have slave units that are virtual cassette decks), you don't have to get 21 computers running and properly configured at the same time to conduct a lab session. I wrote a review of the system for the journal last year: Now that we've moved into the building, I can't find my copy of it, but it's in one of the 2004 issues I believe. (Can anyone help us out and tell us which issue the review is in?) Glad to answer any questions about the system, and I'll soon (by soon I mean maybe by Christmas!) have photos of the new lab on the web site (http://www.sewanee.edu/Language_Lab/) The cost is reasonable as well: The system was far less that the cassette based system from 1997 that it replaced. Best, Karl >--- Forwarded Message from "Daniel M. Wescovich" <[log in to unmask]> --- > >Can anyone tell me what software can emulate the old language lab >system capabilities such as realtime audio communication, grouping, >pairing, etc? I am having trouble finding a solution that works. > >Daniel M. Wescovich > >Coordinator >Language Learning Center >Saint Louis University > Karl W. Fisher Director, Language Laboratory The University of the South 735 University Avenue Sewanee, TN 37383 Lab: (931) 598-1468 Fax: (931) 598-1145 "Time's fun when you're having flies." --Kermit the Frog *********************************************** LLTI is a service of IALLT, the International Association for Language Learning, and The Consortium for Language Teaching and Learning (http://consortium.dartmouth.edu). Join IALLT at http://iallt.org. Otmar Foelsche, LLTI-Editor ([log in to unmask]) *********************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:24:12 EDT From: LLTI-Editor <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: #7992.6 Language Lab Software (!) --- Forwarded Message from <[log in to unmask]> --- >From: <[log in to unmask]> >To: "Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum" <[log in to unmask]> >References: <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: #7992 Language Lab Software >Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 15:09:09 -0500 Hello Try these. We are going to buy one of them at NEIU. http://www.sansinc.com/ http://www.sanako.com/ http://www.can8.com/ Tom Griffin, Director, Foreign Language Lab Department of Foreign Languages and Literatures Northeastern Illinois University 5500 N. St. Louis Avenue Chicago, IL 60625 773-442-4753 773-442-4752 [log in to unmask] [log in to unmask] www.neiu.edu/~flanglab ----- Original Message ----- From: "LLTI-Editor" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 12:21 PM Subject: #7992 Language Lab Software > --- Forwarded Message from "Daniel M. Wescovich" > <[log in to unmask]> --- > > Can anyone tell me what software can emulate the old language lab > system capabilities such as realtime audio communication, grouping, > pairing, etc? I am having trouble finding a solution that works. > > Daniel M. Wescovich > > Coordinator > Language Learning Center > Saint Louis University > > > > > *********************************************** > LLTI is a service of IALLT, the International Association for > Language Learning, and The Consortium for Language Teaching and > Learning (http://consortium.dartmouth.edu). > Join IALLT at http://iallt.org. > Otmar Foelsche, LLTI-Editor ([log in to unmask]) > *********************************************** > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:24:13 EDT From: LLTI-Editor <[log in to unmask]> Subject: #7994 iTunes 5 plays videos --- Forwarded Message from James Hogg <[log in to unmask]> --- >In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> >References: <[log in to unmask]> >From: James Hogg <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: iTunes 5 plays videos >Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 13:26:05 -0400 >To: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum <[log in to unmask]> We use iTunes in the Language Center at Ithaca College. I just downloaded version 5 of iTunes and it includes two new features I have been waiting for. One is folders in the Source Window. With this function I can organize playlists by language in folders. The second, and this seems not to be well publicized, is iTunes can now play Quicktime video files in it. I added an Mpeg 4 movie via Add to Library and it shows up with a little TV screen icon. Now all audio and video materials can be organized and played in one program--iTunes 5. The next step as I see it is for the iPod to use videos, especially since they are moving to color screens. Jim James Hogg Manager Language Center 316 Gannett Center Ithaca College Ithaca, New York 14850 (607) 274-7093 [log in to unmask] *********************************************** LLTI is a service of IALLT, the International Association for Language Learning, and The Consortium for Language Teaching and Learning (http://consortium.dartmouth.edu). Join IALLT at http://iallt.org. Otmar Foelsche, LLTI-Editor ([log in to unmask]) *********************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:24:15 EDT From: LLTI-Editor <[log in to unmask]> Subject: #7995 OS X Attachments --- Forwarded Message from Karl Fisher <[log in to unmask]> --- >In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> >Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:27:08 -0500 >To: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum <[log in to unmask]> >From: Karl Fisher <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: OS X Attachments >Cc: [log in to unmask] Amigos; We're having trouble sending attachments with Mac OS 10.3 Only users with OS 10.3 seem to be able to receive such documents. The attached files in question are .pdf and .rtf files. The recipients (students & colleagues) are running Windows XP and OS 9.1, but the files are not readable. We are using the Eudora mail client and also the Squirrel web mail program and haven't had much luck. Would appreciate your suggestions & observations. Thanks! Karl Karl W. Fisher Director, Language Laboratory The University of the South 735 University Avenue Sewanee, TN 37383 Lab: (931) 598-1468 Fax: (931) 598-1145 "Time's fun when you're having flies." --Kermit the Frog *********************************************** LLTI is a service of IALLT, the International Association for Language Learning, and The Consortium for Language Teaching and Learning (http://consortium.dartmouth.edu). Join IALLT at http://iallt.org. Otmar Foelsche, LLTI-Editor ([log in to unmask]) *********************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:24:06 EDT From: LLTI-Editor <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: #7992.2 Language Lab Software (!) --- Forwarded Message from Jonathan Perkins <[log in to unmask]> --- >In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> >References: <[log in to unmask]> >From: Jonathan Perkins <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: #7992 Language Lab Software >Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 13:09:08 -0500 >To: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum <[log in to unmask]> We are using Sony Virtuoso (http://www.sansinc.com/), which does everything our old audio tape system did ... plus some nice digital bells and whistles. One of the main reasons we chose this option (rather than Divace or Tandberg or any of the others) was to make a smooth transition for those instructors who were used to the old system while opening up the new possibilities of digital delivery to a wider audience. So far we are succeeding in both goals. There is a higher price to be paid for a turnkey system, but if you want to keep the grouping/pairing, monitoring, teacher-student interaction of the old analog lab, this is the way to go in my opinion. JP **************************************************** Jonathan Perkins Associate Director Ermal Garinger Academic Resource Center University of Kansas 4070 Wescoe Hall 1445 Jayhawk Boulevard Lawrence KS 66045-7590 Phone: (785) 864-4782 Fax: (785) 864-1256 www.ku.edu/~egarc www.ku.edu/~language On Sep 9, 2005, at 12:21 PM, LLTI-Editor wrote: > --- Forwarded Message from "Daniel M. Wescovich" > <[log in to unmask]> --- > > Can anyone tell me what software can emulate the old language lab > system capabilities such as realtime audio communication, grouping, > pairing, etc? I am having trouble finding a solution that works. > > Daniel M. Wescovich > > Coordinator > Language Learning Center > Saint Louis University > > > > > *********************************************** > LLTI is a service of IALLT, the International Association for > Language Learning, and The Consortium for Language Teaching and > Learning (http://consortium.dartmouth.edu). > Join IALLT at http://iallt.org. > Otmar Foelsche, LLTI-Editor ([log in to unmask]) > *********************************************** > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:24:18 EDT From: LLTI-Editor <[log in to unmask]> Subject: #7997 NERALLD Meeting - November 10-11, Marist College --- Forwarded Message from "Ross, Andrew" <[log in to unmask]> --- >Subject: NERALLD Meeting - November 10-11, Marist College >Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 14:36:58 -0400 >Thread-Topic: NERALLD Meeting - November 10-11, Marist College >Thread-Index: AcW1Ywhe33Fwcl2TRne16wSNU6pI+wACgH9w >From: "Ross, Andrew" <[log in to unmask]> >To: "Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum" <[log in to unmask]> Dear LLTIers: The New England Regional Association of Language Laboratory Directors (NERALLD) will hold its Fall meeting at Marist College in Poughkeepsie, NY on November 10-11, 2005, on the topic of: "The Language Lab in the Era of Publisher-Produced Materials." There will be a pre-meeting workshop on November 10 on the topic of Non-Western Fonts, moderated by Emmanuel Paris-Bouvret of Wesleyan University. For general current information regarding this meeting, please see http://akbar.marlboro.edu/~neralld/meeting/index.html. In addition to individual and group presentations, the program will include a roundtable discussion regarding changing models of textbook publication, with particular emphasis on publisher-produced and -hosted digital media, digital rights management issues, their impact on the work of language centers, and their implications for instruction and language technology at the secondary and post-secondary levels. Participants will include editors and technical staff from Thomson-Heinle, Cheng & Tsui and other publishers, as well as Jeff Samuels, IALLT's Digital Exchange Coordinator. The Program Committee for this meeting is soliciting abstracts for 30-45 minute presentations on the topic of publisher-produced materials and their impact on language labs' and resource centers' operations. Presentations might address: -- publisher/center relations and joint initiatives, -- changes in center mission and operations as a result of publisher-produced and -distributed materials, -- best practices in integrating publisher-produced materials into the language curriculum, -- other related topics. To submit a presentation proposal, please fill out the form located at: http://www.brown.edu/Departments/LRC/neralld_f05/abstracts.shtml A member of the Program Committee will acknowledge receipt of your submission, and inform you promptly of the Committee's decision. All abstracts should be submitted by September 30, 2005 at the URL above. Please feel free to contact either member of the Program Committee with questions: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask] . Sincerely, Andrew Ross and Mary Simone Andrew F. Ross, Ph.D Director, Language Resource Center Brown University Box 1935 Providence, RI 02912-1935 Tel: (401) 863-7010 Mobile: (401) 641-0329 ****************** "Worrying about a large institution, especially when it has computers, is like worrying about a large gorilla, especially when it's on fire." - Bruce Sterling *********************************************** LLTI is a service of IALLT, the International Association for Language Learning, and The Consortium for Language Teaching and Learning (http://consortium.dartmouth.edu). Join IALLT at http://iallt.org. Otmar Foelsche, LLTI-Editor ([log in to unmask]) *********************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:24:16 EDT From: LLTI-Editor <[log in to unmask]> Subject: #7996 publication announcement - Language Learning & Technology --- Forwarded Message from Language Learning & Technology <[log in to unmask]> --- >Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 14:09:09 -1000 >From: Language Learning & Technology <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: publication announcement - Language Learning & Technology >To: [log in to unmask] We are happy to announce that Volume 9 Number 3 of Language Learning & Technology is now available at http://llt.msu.edu. This is a Special Issue on Technology and Oral Language Development guest edited by David Nunan. The contents are listed below. Please visit the LLT Web site and be sure to enter your free subscription if you have not already done so. Also, we welcome your contributions for future issues. See our guidelines for submission at http://llt.msu.edu/contrib.html. Sincerely, Dorothy Chun and Irene Thompson, Editors Language Learning & Technology ----- Feature Articles ----- Synchronous CMC, Working Memory, and L2 Oral Proficiency Development Scott Payne and Brenda Ross The Pennsylvania State University Told Like It Is! An Evaluation of an Integrated Oral Development Pilot Project David Barr, Jonathan Leakey, and Alexandre Ranchoux University of Ulter, Northern Ireland Conversations -- and Negotiated Interaction -- in Text and Voice Chat Rooms Kevin Jepson Monterey Institute of International Studies Establishing a Methodology for Benchmarking Speech Synthesis for Computer-Assisted Language Learning (CALL) Zoe Handley The University of Manchester, UK Marie-Josee Hamel Dalhousie University, Canada Oral Interaction Around Computers in the Project-Oriented CALL Classroom Gumock Jeon-Ellis, Robert Debski, and Gillian Wigglesworth University of Melbourne, Australia ----- Columns ----- On the Net First, You Have to Hear It! ESL Oral Language Practice by Jean W. LeLoup & Robert Ponterio Emerging Technologies Skype and Podcasting: Disruptive Technologies for Language Learning by Bob Godwin-Jones ----- Reviews ----- Edited by Rafael Salaberry SEER 2.0 Word Magic Software, Inc. Reviewed by Corinne Bosse TextStat 2.5, AntConc 3.0, and Compleat Lexical Tutor 4.0 Reviewed by Luciana Diniz Russian Language Instructional Sites on the Web Reviewed by Richard Robin *********************************************** LLTI is a service of IALLT, the International Association for Language Learning, and The Consortium for Language Teaching and Learning (http://consortium.dartmouth.edu). Join IALLT at http://iallt.org. Otmar Foelsche, LLTI-Editor ([log in to unmask]) *********************************************** ------------------------------ End of LLTI Digest - 9 Sep 2005 to 12 Sep 2005 (#2005-120) **********************************************************