--- Forwarded Message from Deanne Cobb <[log in to unmask]> --- >From: Deanne Cobb <[log in to unmask]> >Sender: [log in to unmask] >Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 13:23:08 -0600 >To: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: #7781 Moving from Placement to Proficiency >In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> >References: <[log in to unmask]> >Disposition-Notification-To: Deanne Cobb <[log in to unmask]> >Return-Receipt-To: Deanne Cobb <[log in to unmask]> >Priority: HIGH I don't have any advice at this point. Rather I am looking for answers the same as you. If the respondents or yourself could post the responses to the list, I have a feeling it will assist not only you and me but many others. Thank you, Deanne Cobb On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:42:40 EST LLTI-Editor <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > --- Forwarded Message from "David Pankratz" <[log in to unmask]> --- > > >Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 14:39:36 -0600 > >From: "David Pankratz" <[log in to unmask]> > >To: <[log in to unmask]> > >Subject: Moving from Placement to Proficiency > > Dear LLTIers, > > My university has used the BYU placement exam for years to help > place > students into the appropriate language course. Now a new chapter > has > started. We need to start testing proficiency not only for > placement, > but to determine if students are knowledgeable enough to be exempt > from > having to take additional courses. > > This means that in the past only students who were motivated to > take > the exam (happily) did so. Now we will soon have to test 5 times > the > number of students, many of whom will not be happy at the prospect > of > having to take language courses. > > My other thought is that our placement exam is not adequate to > really > test competency when the stakes for the student are this high. I > feel we > need to incorporate a listening component at the least, perhaps a > speaking component, if feasible. > > If any of you have made such a daunting transition, or have advice > about the mechanics of testing large numbers of students in various > languages when "exemption" is at stake, I would really like to hear > from > you. Please share your thoughts here or with me personally at > [log in to unmask] > > Thank you. > David Pankratz > Loyola University Chicago > > > *********************************************** > LLTI is a service of IALLT, the International Association for > Language Learning, and The Consortium for Language Teaching and > Learning (http://consortium.dartmouth.edu). > Join IALLT at http://iallt.org. > Otmar Foelsche, LLTI-Editor ([log in to unmask]) > *********************************************** Deanne Cobb Language Lab Manager Language Resource Centre University of Regina *********************************************** LLTI is a service of IALLT, the International Association for Language Learning, and The Consortium for Language Teaching and Learning (http://consortium.dartmouth.edu). Join IALLT at http://iallt.org. Otmar Foelsche, LLTI-Editor ([log in to unmask]) ***********************************************