--- Forwarded Message from Judy Shoaf <[log in to unmask]> --- >Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 17:01:05 -0500 >From: Judy Shoaf <[log in to unmask]> >User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312 >To: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: #7707.8 DISH Network (!) >References: <[log in to unmask]> >In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> If you go to http://www.tv5.org/TV5Site/programmes/accueil_continent.php and click on the FAQ link at the bottom, you'll find a note stating that TV 5 has only broadcasting rights to the programs--all other rights remain with the original broadcasters. The question is attached specifically to requests to purchase copies of broadcasts from TV5, though; it does not address the right to tape and keep broadcast materials. Judy Shoaf LLTI-Editor wrote: > --- Forwarded Message from "Sharnoff, Katherine " <[log in to unmask]> --- > > >>Disposition-Notification-To: "Sharnoff, Katherine " <[log in to unmask]> >>Subject: RE: #7707.7 DISH Network (!) >>Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 14:52:45 -0500 >>Thread-Topic: #7707.7 DISH Network (!) >>Thread-Index: AcTOcVatPuCL6qkjTkKT5EAUz4b4fA== >>From: "Sharnoff, Katherine " <[log in to unmask]> >>To: "LLTI-Editor" <[log in to unmask]> > > > Our experience with Dish Network is through the use of French TV5 > programming. We have been told via telephone by TV5 (in France) that we > can freely copy and save any programming that we record from their > transmissions. However, I have tried on several occasions to get this > in writing for our records to no avail. > > > Katherine VZ Sharnoff > Director, Butler Multimedia Learning Center and Instructor of French > Randolph-Macon College > (804) 752-7297 > [log in to unmask] > > -----Original Message----- > From: LLTI-Editor [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 4:43 PM > Subject: Re: #7707.7 DISH Network (!) > > --- Forwarded Message from "Read Gilgen" <[log in to unmask]> --- > > >>Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:39:52 -0600 >>From: "Read Gilgen" <[log in to unmask]> >>To: <[log in to unmask]> >>Subject: Re: #7707.5 DISH Network (!) > > > Not to mention, of course, that some of SCOLA's materials are of dubious > provenance, and that the original sources are unlikely to come after you > for copying/archiving their material. Further, most of the SCOLA stuff > is news programming, which often has less restrictive uses that other > types such as entertainment. > > I should expect that stuff from Dish could be treated like other off-air > recordings in the fair use realm. > > Again, I'm not a lawyer but I do believe we have an obligation to make > sure we don't surrender rights, thus creating de facto limitations. > > >>>>[log in to unmask] 11/17/2004 10:47:06 AM >>> > > --- Forwarded Message from Tom Browne <[log in to unmask]> --- > > >>Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 15:01:59 -0600 >>From: Tom Browne <[log in to unmask]> >>Subject: Re: #7707.4 DISH Network (!) >>In-reply-to: <[log in to unmask]> >>Originator-info: login-id=browne; server=imap.macalester.edu >>Sender: [log in to unmask] >>To: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum > > <[log in to unmask]> > >>References: <[log in to unmask]> > > > Although Dish Network may seem less expensive, they do not allow you to > copy any of the programming. Copying and Archiving the programming off > of Dish Network is probably Illegal since they don't own the copyright > to any of the programming. > > SCOLA members have full archival rights to all of the programming (for > as long as you are a member). > > Tom Browne > > --On Tuesday, November 16, 2004 1:08 PM -0500 LLTI-Editor > <[log in to unmask]> wrote:rr > > >>--- Forwarded Message from "Read Gilgen" <[log in to unmask]> --- >> >> >>>Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:58:33 -0600 >>>From: "Read Gilgen" <[log in to unmask]> >>>To: <[log in to unmask]> >>>Subject: Re: #7707 DISH Network >> >>Using the DVR that comes with Dish Network (at home), I can create >>recording "timers." You can't be watching something else while it's >>recording. However, any output from the DVR (I pass mine to my VCR > > as > >>well as to my TV), can be recorded at your leisure. >> >>I suspect TiVO would do the same thing. >> >> >>>>>[log in to unmask] 11/12/2004 12:17:57 PM >>> >> >>--- Forwarded Message from Jonathan Perkins <[log in to unmask]> --- >> >> >>>User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 >>>Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:58:52 -0600 >>>Subject: DISH Network >>>From: Jonathan Perkins <[log in to unmask]> >>>To: Language Learning and Technology International Information > > Forum > >><[log in to unmask]> >> >> >>Although there has been quite a bit of discussion this year on DISH >>network, I was hoping someone might have some insight into a rather >>specific question. >> >>We have been using the SCOLA system for a few years now and > > regularly > >>record >>programming for faculty onto VHS tapes. In an effort to go entirely >>digital, we are looking at DISH network as a cheaper alternative to >>SCOLA. >>Some quick research turned up some compatible Digital Video > > Recorders, > >>but I >>am unsure whether you can schedule recording times (it appears not) > > or > >>whether you can get the data from the DVR out into some other format >>that people can take with them. Is anyone recording DISH network >>programming for >>faculty checkout? If so, could you drop me a line with how you are >>accomplishing it. >> >>Thanks, >> >>JP >> >> >>**************************************************** >>Jonathan Perkins >>Associate Director >>Ermal Garinger Academic Resource Center University of Kansas >>4069 Wescoe Hall >>1445 Jayhawk Boulevard >>Lawrence KS 66045-7590 >> >>Phone: (785) 864-4782 >>Fax: (785) 864-1256 >> >>www.ku.edu/~egarc >>www.ku.edu/~language >> >> >> >> >>*********************************************** >> LLTI is a service of IALLT, the International Association for >>Language Learning, and The Consortium for Language Teaching and >>Learning (http://consortium.dartmouth.edu). >>Join IALLT at http://iallt.org. >>Otmar Foelsche, LLTI-Editor ([log in to unmask]) >>*********************************************** > > > > > _____________________________ > Thomas Goodrich Browne > Humanities Resource Center > Macalester College > [log in to unmask]