I don't know what you're talking about, but it appears that not all of your issues are technical in nature. On Friday, May 23, 2003, at 10:29 PM, Chuck Pelto wrote: > P.S. I know Lileks e-mail address and I'm not afraid to unleash the > weapon he threatened Hugh with. > > David Livesay wrote: > >> Depends. Why don't you tell us what the issue is (or was)? >> >> On Friday, May 23, 2003, at 10:04 PM, Chuck Pelto wrote: >> >>> Hi David, >>> >>> "I'm sure there are more economical ways to get OS X server support." >>> -- >>> David >>> >>> Yeah? Tell me about them.... >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Chuck(le) >>> >>> David Livesay wrote: >>> >>>> I doubt they would support server issues on OS X at all. I was told >>>> that they don't support Unix stuff or even logging in to OS X as >>>> root. >>>> >>>> I'm sure there are more economical ways to get OS X server support. >>>> >>>> On Friday, May 23, 2003, at 07:10 PM, Walter Ian Kaye wrote: >>>> >>>>> At 04:38p -0600 05/23/2003, Chuck Pelto didst inscribe upon an >>>>> electronic papyrus: >>>>> >>>>>> I just got off the phone with Apple Tech Support for OS X Server. >>>>>> >>>>>> According to them, if you have technical questions about the OS X >>>>>> Server >>>>>> software after 90 days of your purchase, you have to pay $200 per >>>>>> incident. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is this correct? >>>>>> >>>>>> If so, this is the last Apple product I will buy. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Server isn't meant for individual folks; it's meant for businesses >>>>> that can write off the expenses. Plenty of people use the >>>>> non-server >>>>> version of OS X for running server software. Vendors (whether Apple >>>>> or third party) should really raise a red flag if an individual >>>>> wants >>>>> to buy Server; perhaps you can guilt-trip your vendor into a refund >>>>> or credit for the price of Server (perhaps give you AppleCare >>>>> protection in its place), and revert your machine to the non-server >>>>> version of OS X? AppleCare for a G4 itself is $249, and would cover >>>>> whatever OS came with it, for three years. Or maybe the $49 plan >>>>> would cover it? There are many options cheaper than the >>>>> $200/incident >>>>> plan, so call Apple back and get them to tell you what they all are >>>>> and what they cover. >>>>> <http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=14724> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -boo >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dave >>>> ==== >>>> "This is not a novel to be tossed aside lightly. It should be thrown >>>> with great force." >>>> -- Dorothy Parker >>>> >>>> >>>> >> -- >> Dave >> ==== >> First draw the curve, then plot the data. >> >> >> -- Dave ==== "If you're robbing a bank and your pants fall down, I think it's okay to laugh and to let the hostages laugh too, because, come on, life is funny." --Jack Handey