--- Forwarded Message from Mike Ledgerwood <[log in to unmask]> --- >Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 20:24:33 -0500 >From: Mike Ledgerwood <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: #7038.9 software or program? (!) tenure and promotion part >In-reply-to: <[log in to unmask]> >To: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum <[log in to unmask]> ------------------ A part of Ursula's question no one has addressed yet is how the "poor" prof. is going to use this program for tenure and promotion. This is a huge question. In the US American system the vast majority of people doing the tenure and promotion process have no clue at all how to evaluate this kind of work for that kind of process. MLA tried to help with this and some of our members such as Joel Goldfield tried to help with that. However the final draft of this report wound up being quite unhelpful to many of us (especially those of us who work in administrative roles). Nina Garrett and others published a response to this report which has (unfortunately) been widely ignored. I guess what I would say to all of you dealing with this issue, is that it is best dealt with locally. If you can get any kind of local ruling saying how a piece of software/program equates to a more traditional publication, you are ahead of the game. Otherwise the person has to extrapolate from MLA, CALICO/IALLT/etc. white paper on tech. in ed. along with the Nina et al report along with outside reviewer report. Not a pretty and happy picture. One of the items some IALLT members are working on is to improve this. Best to all, Mike Ledgerwood Director of the Language Learning and Research Center Tenured Professor of French and Technology and Education State University of New York at Stony Brook