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--- Forwarded Message from "pmarcy" <[log in to unmask]> --- >From: "pmarcy" <[log in to unmask]> >To: "'Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum'" <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: RE: #6903 Lab in transition, suggestions? >Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 08:44:30 -0700 >Importance: Normal >In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> >Disposition-Notification-To: "pmarcy" <[log in to unmask]> ------------------ A couple of thoughts. One, spend the extra $300 per monitor to get flat panels. If you do an energy conservation study, you would find that the flat panels will pay for themselves within the year on electricity savings. Two, we use a combination of three digital audio recording systems. One is the Tandberg you mentioned. The other is the free "Sound Recorder" software that comes with Windows under the Accessories menu. We have about 10 professors who have their students come in and use Sound Recorder and then we save their files to a particular place on our server and eventually download them to a CD-r for the instructors. The third system that is just catching on like wild is Wimba.com Voice Discussion Board. It cost us about $5,000 for the software and 25 streams. Wimba works just like any other online discussion board with the exception that it allows voice recordings for the postings. The technology of it is much smoother and simpler than Sound Recorder. And I love it because I don$E2t have to coordinate downloading to a CD since it is available to the instructor from anywhere at any time. What you sacrifice is the pairing and controlled testing, but I think it is worth it. Peggy Marcy Mt. San Antonio College Walnut, CA -----Original Message----- From: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of LLTI-Editor Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 1:24 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: #6903 Lab in transition, suggestions? --- Forwarded Message from "Carol H. Reitan" <[log in to unmask]> --- >Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 10:42:35 -0700 (PDT) >From: "Carol H. Reitan" <[log in to unmask]> >To: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Lab in transition, suggestions? >In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> ------------------ Hello, I have a question for you LLTI experts. Here's the background: We have a drop-in lab (old sony console plus drop-in computer section) and a classroom that features a projection system, and the Sony LLC-9000 plus 35 audio stations. Instructors actually use the console for pairing and testing especially for our conversation courses that emphasize pronunciation (the Mandarin courses for speakers of other dialects of Chinese for example). Four- five years ago we were able to purchase computers for the classroom which were just placed on top of the audio station desks. Classes would do work on the web, learn to use Chinese and Japanese word-processors, etc. Other classes just use the console, or show a video. Here's the question: Now that the computers are getting older and we're thinking about replacing them, rather than just replace the computers and continue with the audio station with the computer set on top, what kinds of transitional scenarios have any of you investigated? It seems a waste of money to get 35 brand new computers and continue with the current situation. The desks are inconvenient for students, no space to write (monitor and keyboard in the way). The furniture is also less than optimum for computer use, we have tight rows, and it's hard to get in there to do the troubleshooting and hands on help that some of our students require. Trashing the analog console is out of the question now because teachers use it, and we can't afford to redo the entire lab with a tandberg (or tandberg type) system and new computer furniture. But, the instructors using the room to have their students access web-based resources, do research, and learn word-processing in various non-roman font languages also need to be served. What transitional scenarios have some of the rest of you used? Any ideas? Thank you all for your suggestions. -------------------------------- Carol Reitan, Language Center Instructor of French City College of San Francisco R205, 50 Phelan Avenue San Francisco, CA 94112 -------------------------------- (415)452-5555 [log in to unmask] http://fog.ccsf.edu/~creitan http://www.ccsf.edu/Departments/Language_Lab ---------------------------------------------