--- Forwarded Message from Judi Franz <[log in to unmask]> --- >In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> >References: <[log in to unmask]> >Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 07:38:31 -0700 >To: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum <[log in to unmask]> >From: Judi Franz <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: #5694 Cheng-Tsui Pricing ------------------ Ouch! That does seem out of line, and we have never encountered that kind of pricing system. However, I am also fortunate because the way UCI's facility is set up, we don't actually purchase any of the materials - the departments do. They then give us the materials to handle the duplication and/or digitizing and distribution (and associated permissions). The same goes for our video collection and a good portion of software - the department pays, or the instructor receives a grant to buy the materials which are then housed here. Judi Judi Franz, Director Humanities Instructional Resource Center 269 Humanities Hall University of California, Irvine (949) 824-6344 http://www.humanities.uci.edu/hirc >--- Forwarded Message from "Read Gilgen" <[log in to unmask]> --- > > >Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:56:45 -0500 > >From: "Read Gilgen" <[log in to unmask]> > >To: <[log in to unmask]> > >Subject: Cheng-Tsui Pricing > >------------------ >Has anyone had dealings with Cheng-Tsui? We have a new Chinese prof >who needs the tapes to accompany his text book ("Integrated Chinese" >from Cheng-Tsui). We think the prices are outrageous. For just the >first semester, the student cost for the four (4!) cassette tapes is >$53. Second semester is only three tapes for $43. And second year >(two semesters) is $83. In other words, over two years of Chinese a >student would be asked to pay nearly $170 just for the tapes. > >OK, so we go to the language lab model and buy a set to be copied >for students. They now want to charge a different language lab fee >of $440 for the same sets. > >This seems quite out of step with other publishers. We don't charge >student lab fees, so these costs hit us hard. I can imagine it >would be worse at smaller schools with correspondingly smaller >budgets. And if we were forced to do this with all of the languages >we teach (nearly 50 any given semester)... well I think you can see >the problem. > >Unfortunately this prof didn't speak with us first to explore >alternatives, so we'll be forced to go along. (Also, unfortunately, >he's here only a year until the regular prof returns to use his own >materials.) But I just wanted to get reactions from others of you. > >Read Gilgen >University of Wisconsin