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--- Forwarded Message from "Michael Bush" <[log in to unmask]> ---

>From: "Michael Bush" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: "Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum"    <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: RE: #5252.6 Real Audio software availability conditions (!)
>Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:33:25 -0600
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Was I asleep when I wrote the following phrase?!?!  Sorry...
> I has happened to me more than once that when
> I needed to upgrade the software, the version
> I had was out of date and I had to get the upgrade.

What I meant was this:

It has happened to me more than once that when I needed to USE the software,
the version I had was out of date and I had to get the upgrade.

Please forgive my incoherence.

Cheers,

Mike
Michael Bush
Associate Professor of French and
Instructional Psychology and Technology
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http://moliere.byu.edu/digital/

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Subject: Re: #5252.6 Real Audio software availability conditions (!)

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>From: "Michael Bush" <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: RE: #5252.3 Real Audio software availability conditions (!)
>Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:24:42 -0600
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Several messages contained the essence of this quote:
> The Real player software is freeware.

It is true that the basic player is free, but my experience is that the
freeware comes with a timestamp that disables the RealAudio software after a
period of time.  Their marketing approach is designed to get users to try
the software, like it, and then buy the full-fledged package.  Perhaps this
was only with "Beta" versions, but I am not sure of that.  I has happened to
me more than once that when I needed to upgrade the software, the version I
had was out of date and I had to get the upgrade.  Although it was free, it
was still a pain.  If I used this stuff enough, I think it would be worth it
to have a version that would not expire.

For more on their approach see:

http://service.real.com/help/faq/betaexp.html

Indeed, my sense is that a more professional approach would be for labs to
purchase some sort of licensing agreement.  Companies such as RealAudio are
not in business as charitable endeavors whose purpose is making free stuff
available to us.  Somehow they have to make money, and is it is in our best
interest for them to do that if we want to continue to get innovative
products.  Sure they, make money on their server products, but they also
want to sell as many full-featured players as they can.

This said, it is possible at least for the present to install the product
for free and then every several weeks (months?) upgrade each workstation
with a new version.

Cheers,

Mike
Michael Bush
Associate Professor of French and
Instructional Psychology and Technology
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http://moliere.byu.edu/digital/

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