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--- Forwarded Message from Michael Bush <[log in to unmask]> ---

>Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:16:53 -0600
>From: Michael Bush <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: RE: #5181.3 MAC OS 8.6 on Power Computing clones (!)
>In-reply-to: <[log in to unmask]>
>To: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum    <[log in to unmask]>
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I am sure that David Herren is finding it hard to believe that I am sitting
here watching all the recent MacHack activity go streaming by on this list
without my saying anything!  *grin*  And just how reliable and easy to use
ARE those Macs?  I am sure these problems exist only with the clones, right?
*even wider grin*

I will say that Steve Jobs has inspired Apple to put together one screaming
and impressive machine with the G4s.  Really cool stuff!!

Cheers,

Mike
Michael Bush
Associate Professor of French and
Instructional Psychology and Technology
http://moliere.byu.edu/digital/
-----Original Message-----
From: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum
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Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 6:18 AM
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Subject: Re: #5181.3 MAC OS 8.6 on Power Computing clones (!)

--- Forwarded Message from "John H. Stewart" <[log in to unmask]> ---

>In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:36:44 -0400
>To: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum
<[log in to unmask]>
>From: "John H. Stewart" <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: #5181.2 MAC OS 8.6 on Power Computing clones (!)

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Hi Folks -
I have continued to find this hack very useful with older machines - and
especially with APS drive that have accumulated.  With a bit of cajoling,
you can have 100% Mac drivers on your machines.  I have performed this
operation on my father's PowerCenter Pro, and have it running 8.6 with no
problems (out of the ordinary, that is... I certainly can't claim "no
problem whatsoever"!)  We've never purchased any upgrades for the CD-ROM
drivers, so whatever the last free update was is what it's running.

I won't claim that Apple drivers are perfect/the fastest/etc., but they are
supported by Apple (whatever that means -- at least you know that they are
the drivers Apple is developing on...).  I feel pretty strongly about having
nothing but Apple drivers on all hard disks attached to my machines, and
this is a relatively easy way to do it.  The drive does need to be
completely reformated the first time, when you are switching to the Apple
drivers, but thereafter, it behaves just like all of your other Apple
drives -- you install a new system, and it automatically updates the drivers
for you -- all data remains intact.

So without further delay, I give you:

http://www.euronet.nl/users/ernstoud/patch.html

Good luck, all!

Jan


>--- Forwarded Message from Stephane Charitos <[log in to unmask]> ---
>
>>In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>References: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:36:00 -0400
>>To: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum
<[log in to unmask]>
>>From: Stephane Charitos <[log in to unmask]>
>>Subject: Re: #5181 MAC OS 8.6 on Power Computing clones
>
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>Hi:
>
>I have an old Power Center at home running 8.6 with no problem whatsoever.
>
>However keep in mind that Power Computing machines cannot use
>Macintosh drivers which are needed to smoothly run OS 8.6. This is
>because the hard drives in the PC machines were originally formatted
>with 3rd party software (usually FWB Software) and must be upgraded
>using proprietary drivers from that company. Problem is they charge
>you for them so that every time I've upgraded (7.5 --> 8.0 --> 8.5
>---> 8.6) I've had to shell out $30 - $40 to them for an updated
>driver. I tried to get around the problem by reformating the drive
>using Apple's utilities, but that doesn't work so I'm stuck with
>buying drivers until I get rid of the machine which I'm loath to do
>because it's very reliable.
>
>Best,
>
>Stephane
>Dr. Stephane Charitos, Director
>Language Resource Center
>Columbia University
>Tel: 212.854.6341
>Fax: 212.932-7651
>Email: [log in to unmask]
>_________________________


John H. Stewart
Computer Consultant
Language Resource Center
(734) 647-0757

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