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--- Forwarded Message from Virginia Lewis <[log in to unmask]> ---

>Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 19:02:46 -0500
>From: Virginia Lewis <[log in to unmask]>
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>To: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: #5032.1 Position Announcement (Re-Posting) (!)
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David, you raise some interesting questions.  Certainly it seems to me that
we all need to rethink where we should be focusing or refocusing our
efforts.  Despite the list of requirements for this particular position, I
would argue that it is probably more focused and - even more realistic (!)
than most *lab director* positions are.  Its problem, of course, is that it
is grant funded - and administrations have a long history in our field of
not recognizing the long-term nature of this kind of endeavor.  So, of
course, it is a risk (that meaningful long-term funding will be
forthcoming).  Nevertheless, I would argue that all of us are "at risk" if
we don't take a very proactive role in structuring our profession and its
demands.   I do a fair amount of formal and informal consulting - and I've
also been in the process of rethinking ("reinventing") myself since I
decided to leave Southwestern (and have been on the market).  From my own
experience, I can tell you that 1) people are not getting the kinds and
numbers of applicants that they did in the "old days" (that means we're
probably doing something *right* as a profession - we're saying "thanks,
but I pass"); 2) many of us are leaving the profession as narrowly-defined
- and that, in many cases, with a great deal of pain - since we love and
are committed to language study; and 3) (in my humble opinion) what you
might derive from numbers one and two - we're in more of a "seller's
market" than many of you might realize.  On the other hand, I think we do
need to make sure we keep up-to-date on the emerging technologies - but
that brings back many of the problems of lab director positions - who has
time to*do* that (at least in depth), when we're wearing all those other
hats?  If we're lucky, we have technical staff to actually do the scripting
(but most of us don't!) and can learn Java, for example, with broad
strokes.  But most lab directors just don't have time to do *significant*
development themselves - and that can be a major frustration.  I've asked
myself in my "rethinking" process - have you been able to learn
*meaningful* new things in your last position?  Two positions ago I could
answer overwhelmingly yes (in large part due to the wonderful academic
computing staff at Haverford which made me feel a part of what they were
doing); in my last position, the answer was overwhelmingly "no."  (Lots of
reasons I won't go into - but realizing that made me stop and think and
think again and again and again. . .)  That epiphany has led to some
insecurity (leaving one position before being sure what the next one would
be) - but also to a great deal of personal satisfaction.  While I'm
deciding where I am going to go next, I've had time to dig into (in *depth*
for a change) Javascript and Java and all the other things that we're going
to have to know or become extinct.  But that doesn't mean we should cave in
to yet one more unrealistic demand.

I'd encourage you all to start a conversation - maybe now on LLTI - and in
person at IALL - about all this - again - and in earnest.  I'd also
encourage you to "just say no" to positions which are abusive (in terms of
demands, salaries, professional status, etc.).  But don't just ignore them
- *respond* to them - and, as constructively as you can, try to educate
those "offering" the abuse.  But we as a profession have to say - somehow -
"it stops here!"  So how do we do that?  (I'd really be interested in how
many of *you* can say honestly: "I have a great position!"  If you do, I
bet you "grew your own institution"  If so, my hat - or maybe *all* my
former hats *are* - is off to you!).

In any case, I know we have this conversation periodically - but maybe it's
time to start it again?

Virginia




LLTI-Editor wrote:

> --- Forwarded Message from "David Pankratz" <[log in to unmask]> ---
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> >Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:25:20 -0500
> >From: "David Pankratz" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: #5032 Position Announcement (Re-Posting) -Reply
>
> At the risk of going out on a rather long limb here, my curiosity is
> seriously aroused about the qualifications required for this position
> versus the likelihood that there are people out there with those
> qualifications who are looking for work.
>
> While reading through the expectations, I was thinking how ambitious
> and challenging this position would be (knowledge of language
> pedagogy, advising faculty, conducting technical workshops, installing
> software, program evaluation, etc.), and then I got to this part:
>
> "...[the applicant] will also be familiar with emerging instructional
> technology on both Mac and DOS/Windows platforms. Expertise in low to
> high level authoring systems (e.g. Macromedia's Authorware and
> Director programs, X-Media Engine Templates, Libra or SuperMacLang) as
> well as a good grasp on web-development (HTML, Javascript, knowledge
> of common editors like PageMill, Netscape Composer, or Claris Home
> Page) is expected."
>
> Wow. I can imagine that many potential applicants might be intimidated
> by the quite diverse level of  "expertise" required in all of the
> computer platforms and applications listed. Many of the people I know
> who are successful in this field came from a foreign
> language/linguistics/language pedagogy background, and they have
> learned technology--including computer technology--as they go. I
> wonder if a substantial change is taking place. Is the "profession"
> expecting such a high level of technical expertise for a position that
> may not even be permanent?
>
> Just some thoughts--and not meant to be critical, merely inquisitive.
> The work sounds fascinating, but I am wondering how others who read
> this list react to this position announcement.  (Am I the only one who
> is feeling like maybe I should sign up for a Memorial Day Weekend Java
> course?...)
>
> David Pankratz
> Loyola University Chicago

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