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>Subject: Re: #8854.5 (!) Rosetta Stone / Pimsleur
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hi Tina,
We recently purchased the web-only version of Rosetta Stone -- one buys
x many individual seat licenses to access an entrance portal that
Rosetta hosts on their server. I believe they come in packs of 20
licenses with pricing starting at around $2500 per pack. It's not ideal,
but they no longer offer a networked-based version for lab use.
I wish there were other solutions, since it leaves me with the rather
onerous task of tracking the minutiae of license distribution, but the
faculty are quite pleased with it so far.
cheers,
Ellen
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>> Subject: RE: #8854.4 (!) Rosetta Stone / Pimsleur
>> Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:21:53 -0400
>> Thread-Index: AcjA7oShw6W8X4VvTnShBqh1YpfmbQAAI6xA
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> Dear Bob,
>
> Thank you for the software review site! I understand what you're saying
> about the limitations of self-paced software not used in conjunction with an
> instructor.
>
> I have compiled links for ESL learning that I give to students, but I have
> been charged with finding a software package for international students to
> use within our lab. Like you, we don't have a lot of money to spend on
> software, so this is a difficult decision.
>
> For the others who have written on this topic, I have found out that neither
> RosettaStone or Tell Me More offer an off the shelf page for labs that can
> be checked out from the front desk. (RosettaStone did at one time, but have
> apparently stopped.) Since I don't have the money to buy a networked
> solution, it seems that Pimsleur might be the only choice...if any of you
> know of anything else, please let me know!
>
> Thank you,
> Tina
>
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>> Subject: RE: #8854.3 Rosetta Stone / Pimsleur
>> Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 13:39:07 -0500
>> Thread-Topic: #8854.3 Rosetta Stone / Pimsleur
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> You will find many software reviews through the Glob-Gate Project site:
>
> Foreign-Language Software & Web Central
> http://webpages.charter.net/tbob/softwrev.html
>
> Please suffer old-bearded teacher philosophy about all of today's digital
> learning resources. In order to make any of the materials you choose work,
> they
> have to directly support, enhance or extend what the teacher is doing in
> class
> and what students are expected to show when they are tested. This does not
> mean
> that they must contain testing materials, but rather that students have some
> confidence of their tutorial function. It means that lab directors must work
> these things out with teachers, lab committees and or department chairs.
>
> At UTMartin, where every department will be cutting back at least 7.5% this
> year, we have never had much money for software, in the
>
> Muriel Tomlinson Language Resource Center
> http://www.utm.edu/staff/globeg/lab.shtml
>
> we are trying to create something that will serve our students in the
> context of
> the goals and objectives set for them by their teachers, and serve teachers
> by
> assuring that students will be able to use some targeted resources without
> going
> all over the net to find them. I have complete, but will soon renovate
>
> French Learning Objects
> http://www.utm.edu/staff/globeg/dmlearnfr.html
>
> and I am working to complete
>
> Spanish Learning Objects
> http://www.utm.edu/staff/globeg/lobjectsp.shtml
>
> Though Spanish is my 2nd foreign language, I took my last course 40 years
> ago.
> Fortunately, I have colleagues in Spanish who will help me.
>
> We do teach German, Japanese and some Portuguese. I will do what I can for
> them
> also. The Japanese teacher is working on her own web tutorial, and I will
> see if
> I can set something up with the German teacher. My German is weak.
>
> We only teach Portuguese, when one of our French teachers (native Brazilian)
> has
> free space in her schedule and we are able to get enough fairly fluent
> Spanish
> speakers together for a very intensive Portuguese as 3rd language course.
>
> TBob
>
> Robert D. Peckham, Ph.D
> Professor of French
> Chair, AATF Commission on Advocacy
> Director, Muriel Tomlinson Language Resource Center
> Director, Globe-Gate Intercultural Web Project
> Director, Andy Holt Virtual Library
> Department of Modern Foreign Languages
> Univ. of Tennessee at Martin / Martin TN 38238
> Email: [log in to unmask]
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum on
> behalf
> of LLTI-Editor
> Sent: Tue 5/27/2008 12:52 PM
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> Subject: #8854.3 Rosetta Stone / Pimsleur
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Our lab invested in the Pimsleur audio books for many languages before I
> started my position. We would now like to buy some stand alone programs for
> ESL. I don't think that I could personally use the Pimsleur because I am a
> visual learner. I'm considering RosettaStone as an alternative. I would
> like to get a demo of RosettaStone before we buy it, but the sales people
> haven't contacted me yet. (The brief demo on their web site isn't enough for
> me.)
>
>
>
> Also, one of my coworkers told me that my predecessor was interested in
> RosettaStone, but he didn't buy it because they wanted him to buy more than
> one copy per language. If you're using RosettaStone, can you please tell me
> how you and your patrons like it? Also, can you tell me how you are
> delivering it to the students (e.g., you have one copy that you check out,
> you have the Internet service, etc.)
>
>
>
> Finally, if you have experience with both Pimsleur and RosettaStone, can you
> help me to compare them? I understand that Pimsleur is audio only and
> RosettaStone is a complete package, but I'm wondering if the Pimsleur helps
> people gain conversational fluency faster - is better with helping with
> pronunciation, etc. Since I'm considering something for international
> students, these would of course be people who have some level of fluency
> already and just need to build on their existing skills.
>
>
>
> Thank you!
>
> Tina
>
>
>
> Tina Deveny Oestreich
>
> Language Learning Manager
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