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"Otmar Foelsche, LLTI -Editor" <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:53:25 -0500
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Subject: 	RE: #8413.1 - (!!) video conf - linked classrooms
Date: 	Sun, 10 Dec 2006 11:38:42 +0000
From: 	R Freeman <[log in to unmask]>
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Lauren,

Thanks for your reply (and comments!) :-)

To answer your question, I would like to set up a combined/linked language 
class (ESL or Spanish) composed of about around 10-15 students from my 
campus (in Wilmington, Delaware) and 10 - 15 students in Taiwan (where I am 
currently on site doing some doctoral work).  I know our school in the 
States has a pretty reliable T3 connection with ample bandwith (well, at 
least it's this way in the morning and in the evening, when the classes 
would be conducted).  As well, I think (but am not 100% sure YET) that the 
university  here in Taiwan has decent connectivity too. They have a 
classroom in with about 10 Polycom units.  The real issue for me now is what 
would provide the best set up for our school in Delaware (ie what gets the 
best bang for the buck).

If I use a SmartBoard to project the video being received by a computer, 
would that create a better "illusion" of a "life-size" class?  Do you know 
if Polycom units include such enhanced or enlarged projection?  Do they also 
provide for a secondary video share of monitor or application sharing?

Do you have any idea of pricing for a classroom of appx 10-15 microphone - 
equipped desk stations and camera set up?

I was really impressed by the Cisco Telepresence product but it seems 
limited to just 6 peoiple at each site, so probably not a classroom-friendly 
option.

Last question for now:  what product/set up would best facilitate one-on-one 
pairing and group work between sites?  I'm not worried about the "lecture" 
segment of class or whole-class work, but am most concerned with finding a 
way to build cohesive student groups and pairs for speaking and interaction 
between (rather than among) sites.  Woud I have to just take the classes to 
computer labs with chatting software or does Polycom somehow allow for 
private channel link up's between specified stations or desks?

I have been looking into the Wimba Voice Tools and Live Classroom packages 
as a way to create "aural/oral" threaded discussions and spoken chats 
between pairs and groups of students at the two sites, but wondering if the 
Polycom functionality makes this superfluous?

ANY suggestions or ideas would help!!!!!

Brett Freeman
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Subject: #8413.1 - (!!) video conf - linked classrooms
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 13:32:56 -0500

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Date: 	Mon, 4 Dec 2006 15:38:08 -0500
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Rob,

The linking of the classrooms and getting videoconferencing in there is 
really the easy part with a couple of polycom units and cameras for the 
teacher and student views along with desktop mics for students and wireless 
mics for instructors. The question that I have here is what do you want to 
do over the videoconferencing connection? What types of interactions will 
need to take place? What will students need to be able to do in the room? 
What will instructors need to do? That will determine more what additional 
technology you will want such as document cameras, if you need PIP software 
working, and a number of other technologies.

The transparentness and seamlessness is really more a function of "how" it 
is used not what it is. The quality of the audio and video is a combination 
of the quality of the equipment and the bandwidth you have at the time of 
the connection. You might have perfect video and audio with miliseconds of 
lag at 9am but come 4pm the same connection will have some freezing. Also 
having a quality of service solution in place will help with those problems 
but are still no guarantee of perfection every time.

I'd be happy to talk with you further about this if you are needing more 
details. We have been using large classrooom videoconferencing for 
instruction for 8 years. You can contact me off the list if you like.
Lauren Rosen
Collaborative Language Program
University of Wisconsin
618 Van Hise Hall
1220 Linden Drive
Madison, WI  53706

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608-262-4066 (voice)
608-265-3892 (fax)
http://www.uwosh.edu/colleges/col s/clp.htm



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