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>Subject: RE: #8287.5-7 (!) Sony vs. Sanoko
>Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:17:26 -0400
>Thread-Topic: #8287.5-7 (!) Sony vs. Sanoko
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>From: "Vance, Jason" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: "Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum"
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Does anyone have trouble broadcasting sound through Sony or Sanako? We
are using Genesis which is another company in language lab business. Are
any of your labs on VLAN so that you are not broadcasting data across
the school network?
Jason Vance, Supervisor
Language Learning Center
Thomas Nelson Community College
PO BOX 9407
Hampton, Virginia 23670
757-825-2819(Office)
757-825-3807(fax)
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Subject: Re: #8287.5-7 (!) Sony vs. Sanoko
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Henry and Others,
You have started an interesting thread. Let me clarify some discussion
about Sanako software. Henry suggested that Sanako only used proprietary
formats; however, I have used Sanako products for many years now, and
their Labs, including the Sanako Media Assistant, are designed NOT to be
exclusive and proprietary systems alone.
In fact, the great thing about this Assistant is that it can handle all
major media file types including MP3, .wav, .wma (Windows Media), and
.rm
(RealMedia), so you have a great deal of flexibility and ease in the
type
s
of media files you author and play. Yes, users can author materials for
specific use with Sanako Labs, but it appears to me that the company's
goal is far reaching in that you have a great deal of flexibility.
Furthermore, one of the pedagogically-attractive features of the Sanako
Media Assistant is Variable Speed Control, thus allowing users to
control
media playback.
I would sugggest visiting their site at www.sanako.com and join the
forum
s
to ask questions from teachers who use their products.
Having developed multimedia for the Web for many years, I would at least
suggest people taking a careful look at any Lab system and contact
people
who use them on a daily basis.
Randall Davis
www.esl-lab.com
______
Henry Wilmer wrote:
One of major differences is that Sony
produces files in standard formats (mp3, WAV) etc. while Sanako uses
some proprietary codecs. It's possible to convert these to mp3's, but
it's a bit of a pain.
Henry Wilmer
Director, Language Learning Center
Phillips Academy, Andover, MA
978-749-4201
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Our 2001 Tandberg system (i.e. Sanako) produces a choice of mp3s or .wav
(and also reads .rm though with reduced functionality). It also produces
proprietary files, .dim and .dis files, but these are not exactly
codecs. They are files which maintain a relationship between the
original master track and an added track, which could be audio or
textual or just a set of "bookmarks" locating particular points in the
master track (or it could be all three). So they have a separate
function, and actually get used a bit in the lab.
If a student has mistakenly saved a file in a proprietary format the
student audio track can be disembedded by opening it in Divace (now
renamed Media Assistant), recording a couple more seconds, and saving it
in the desired format.
As we are looking forward to upgrading, I sure hope that the new
software handles and saves in at least all the same formats....????
Judy
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Chris,
I have used Sanako systems for years as a teacher and lab coordinator,
an
d
I have been very pleased with the results from a pedagogical standpoint.
Just keep in mind that whatever you choose, technology is not a method,
but only a support to achieving our objectives. Unfortunately, I have
see
n
many computer labs around the world that have been relegated to
souped-up
typerwriters because the vision of what computers can and cannot do
wasn'
t
there.
For Sanako, I suggest you visit their forums to ask questions from
teachers who use their products (www.sanako.com).
Randall Davis
www.esl-lab.com
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