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>Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 11:05:16 -0600
>From: "Read Gilgen" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: #8076.1 Media distribution and copyright (!)
Right on, Joseph!
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--- Forwarded Message from Joseph O Kautz <[log in to unmask]> ---
>Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 11:15:19 -0800 (PST)
>From: Joseph O Kautz <[log in to unmask]>
>To: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum
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>Subject: Re: Media distribution and copyright
>In-Reply-To:
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Charlie Long makes an interesting proposition and I could not help
responding with how this fashionable, campus-in-itunes approach would
affect us. An All Itunes solution would limit how we can use digital
media. We incorporate audio and video files from publishers into our
LMS.
We also augment the content with text tracks done in Magpie, etc. To
do
didacticization well, we need the actual files, not a link into a
"free"
proprietary content management system. Blackboard used to be free
too.
Students are already gouged by publishers. Delivering media from
Itunes
will be seen as a new way to make money for the publisher at the
students'
expense.
The way we handle digital files now, I can guarantee my students a
minimal level of
quality when I reformat publishers' audio/video files. In the hands
of
publishers who will be overly concerned with bandwidth issues and
their
bottom line, audio/video quality will be of secondary concern and we
will
end up with unusable files that students pay for anyway.
Kiss the language lab good-bye on campus with this kind of delivery
model.
Bean counters would be wise to ask, why do we need a Language Lab when
we
have IPods and Itunes to benevolently take the place of Language Labs.
Finally, since when do we trust multinational corporations to intepret
fair use for us? Itunes is far too young to be accepted as a standard
for
content management. There are/will be open source clones in the very
near
future. I agree with Charlie Long on many of his points, but I have
less
faith in corporate approaches to facilitating 2nd language
acquisition.
I guess as long as I can get copies of the publishers' media for our
own
use, Itunes could be helpful. Maybe TOO helpful. Joseph
On Thu, 3 Nov 2005, Charlie Long wrote:
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> Dear Colleagues,
>
> We spend a lot of time implementing ways to deliver and organize
> copyrighted audio and video materials to and for our students. We
make
> password protected web pages, we post files to course management
systems.
> Students have to get on to our networks and behind firewalls in order
to
> access them. We have to write for permissions, worry about what we
are
> doing is legal, etc. All of this takes time and energy away from
teaching
> and learning.
>
> I would like to offer an open suggestion to Publishers.
>
> iTunes is a wonderful media management system, it organizes, it is
> searchable, it is cross platform, and it is FREE! Publishers should
make
> their audio and video available through an iTunes Educational Media
> Store. A keycode, along the lines of the Quia, Inc. or Pepsi bottle
cap
> model, could be included with the textbook to allow for the
downloading
> of the material. Alternately, a reasonable fee could be charged for
used
> text books.
>
> If IALLT, AATSP, AATF, CALICO, etc. all approached the publishers
and
> Apple, this could happen. The advantage to the publishers is great.
They
> would not have to publish and package CD's or DVD's, saving them lots
of
> money, hopefully passing along the savings to the students.
>
> Students and teachers alike would have their own copies of the
materials
> to play when and where needed. The built-in copyright protection of
the
> iTunes store limits the unauthorized distribution of the materials.
> Students are familiar with the interface. If EMINEM and DESPERATE
> HOUSEWIVES can be distributed so easily to so many people, why can't
the
> Lesson 5 listening comprehension or the fourth video episode be done
as
> well?
>
> I hoping that there are publishers who read this list and that they
will
> consider this option. I imagine that there are individuals in IALLT
who
> will know how to best approach the people who make such decisions.
>
> Imagine all students having easy access to all the audio and video
that a
> textbook has to offer without the institution having to do anything
and
> without the publisher having to do any shrink wrapping.
>
> ceL
>
> *****************************************************************
> Charles E. Long, Head
> International Learning Center
> -International Study Programs
> -The Language lab
> Choate Rosemary Hall 333 Christian Street Wallingford, CT
06492
>
> "Ask not what you can do for technology, but what technology can do
for
> you."
> "Most people in the world are foreigners."
> *****************************************************************
>
>
>
>
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