--- Forwarded Message from Bob Peckham <[log in to unmask]> ---

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>Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 17:11:57 -0600
>Subject: Re: #7821 Language Labs Living On Borrowed Time?
>From: Bob Peckham <[log in to unmask]>
>To: LLTI <[log in to unmask]>
>In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]>

How reliable is the web?  One of the reasons I have steared clear of
textbooks heavily into web applications is because the web is not always up.
You have your computer, the quality of its connection (including wire or
wireless, DHCP server, routers, bottlenecks in some cases. If we are talking
about dorms, or if half the population is downloading films. If you have a
lab, then there are the hubs. Then there the host server.  It is
experiencing a denial of service attack? Is it a stable OS running a good
web-serving software.  Then, there are the programmers and webmasters.  Are
they having touble like this one on our campus.  Wose web page is a flawed
source code:

Are we all really ready to give ip our CDs, and our labs, where we can at
least monitor that students are actually spending time studying the
language.

TBob

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On 3/2/05 3:34 PM, "LLTI-Editor" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> --- Forwarded Message from "David Flores" <[log in to unmask]> ---
>
>> Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 16:28:47 -0500
>> From: "David Flores" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Language Labs Living On Borrowed Time?
>
> Our principal Spanish textbook is going to its 6th edition this Summer,
> and following a trend I've noticed with many FL textbooks lately: the
> workbook and much of the audio/video content that was traditionally
> housed in Language Learning Centers is being placed on the web.
>
> If this trend continues, much of our raison d'etre simply vanishes into
> cyberspace. Sure we still schedule and show foreign language films in
> our in-house theatre. Sure we still provide video production and editing
> facilities for classes that might have a short film project as an
> assignemnt. Sure we are open for instructors to run headset-based,
> interactive class sessions. But most of the use our lab sees... let's
> face it... is due to students completing their lab manual assignments
> and listening to the audio-tracks that are stored locally on our
> server.
>
> So how many of you guys are worried about your labs disappearing in 5
> or so years? And have you any thoughts on how to keep the lab relevant
> even if textbook manufacturers move most of their audio/video content
> online?
>
> David Flores
> Director: Language Learning Center
> Loyola College in Maryland
> 4501 North Charles Street
> Baltimore, MD 21210
> Ph: (410) 617-5230
> Fax: (410) 617 2859
>
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