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>From: Jim Duber <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: #7781 Moving from Placement to Proficiency
>Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:22:11 -0800
>To: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum
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Hello David and LLTI-readers,
You might be interested in reading an article entitled "Grow Your Own:
Online Placement Testing" that I co-wrote with Maggie Sokolik. It
describes the online placement test that we designed and developed for
our summer ESL program at UC Berkeley. You'll see that it includes a
listening component (see "Figure 3" for a sample).
http://www-writing.berkeley.edu/tesl-ej/ej21/int.html
In fact, we're just now starting work on the new revision for next
summer and plan on introducing a speaking component using Flash
Communication Server (FCS) technology.
I've got quite a bit of information and links to demo voice-enabled
FCS-based applications that might interest you on my blog at:
http://duber.com/oncall/
(see the archives for additional links to information on "LetsTalk"
and "Project We Say Tomato" in particular)
Hope that helps,
Jim
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On Feb 7, 2005, at 12:42 PM, LLTI-Editor wrote:
> --- Forwarded Message from "David Pankratz" <[log in to unmask]> ---
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>> Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 14:39:36 -0600
>> From: "David Pankratz" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Moving from Placement to Proficiency
>
> Dear LLTIers,
>
> My university has used the BYU placement exam for years to help place
> students into the appropriate language course. Now a new chapter has
> started. We need to start testing proficiency not only for placement,
> but to determine if students are knowledgeable enough to be exempt from
> having to take additional courses.
>
> This means that in the past only students who were motivated to take
> the exam (happily) did so. Now we will soon have to test 5 times the
> number of students, many of whom will not be happy at the prospect of
> having to take language courses.
>
> My other thought is that our placement exam is not adequate to really
> test competency when the stakes for the student are this high. I feel
> we
> need to incorporate a listening component at the least, perhaps a
> speaking component, if feasible.
>
> If any of you have made such a daunting transition, or have advice
> about the mechanics of testing large numbers of students in various
> languages when "exemption" is at stake, I would really like to hear
> from
> you. Please share your thoughts here or with me personally at
> [log in to unmask]
>
> Thank you.
> David Pankratz
> Loyola University Chicago
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