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>From: Dick Feldman <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: #7707.8 DISH Network (!)
I've also spoken with TV5. They do have an expansive attitude
towards their own more pedagogical material, but will acknowledge
that they have no special rights that they can transfer to anyone for
the entertainment and other cultural programming they relay.
Dick Feldman
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>>Disposition-Notification-To: "Sharnoff, Katherine " <[log in to unmask]>
>>Subject: RE: #7707.7 DISH Network (!)
>>Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 14:52:45 -0500
>>Thread-Topic: #7707.7 DISH Network (!)
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>>From: "Sharnoff, Katherine " <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: "LLTI-Editor" <[log in to unmask]>
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> Our experience with Dish Network is through the use of French TV5
>programming. We have been told via telephone by TV5 (in France) that we
>can freely copy and save any programming that we record from their
>transmissions. However, I have tried on several occasions to get this
>in writing for our records to no avail.
>
>
>Katherine VZ Sharnoff
>Director, Butler Multimedia Learning Center and Instructor of French
>Randolph-Macon College
>(804) 752-7297
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>Subject: Re: #7707.7 DISH Network (!)
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>--- Forwarded Message from "Read Gilgen" <[log in to unmask]> ---
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>>Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:39:52 -0600
>>From: "Read Gilgen" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Subject: Re: #7707.5 DISH Network (!)
>
>Not to mention, of course, that some of SCOLA's materials are of dubious
>provenance, and that the original sources are unlikely to come after you
>for copying/archiving their material. Further, most of the SCOLA stuff
>is news programming, which often has less restrictive uses that other
>types such as entertainment.
>
>I should expect that stuff from Dish could be treated like other off-air
>recordings in the fair use realm.
>
>Again, I'm not a lawyer but I do believe we have an obligation to make
>sure we don't surrender rights, thus creating de facto limitations.
>
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>>Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 15:01:59 -0600
>>From: Tom Browne <[log in to unmask]>
>>Subject: Re: #7707.4 DISH Network (!)
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>Although Dish Network may seem less expensive, they do not allow you to
>copy any of the programming. Copying and Archiving the programming off
>of Dish Network is probably Illegal since they don't own the copyright
>to any of the programming.
>
>SCOLA members have full archival rights to all of the programming (for
>as long as you are a member).
>
>Tom Browne
>
>--On Tuesday, November 16, 2004 1:08 PM -0500 LLTI-Editor
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>> --- Forwarded Message from "Read Gilgen" <[log in to unmask]> ---
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>>> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:58:33 -0600
>>> From: "Read Gilgen" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Subject: Re: #7707 DISH Network
>>
>> Using the DVR that comes with Dish Network (at home), I can create
>> recording "timers." You can't be watching something else while it's
>> recording. However, any output from the DVR (I pass mine to my VCR
>as
>> well as to my TV), can be recorded at your leisure.
>>
>> I suspect TiVO would do the same thing.
>>
>>>>> [log in to unmask] 11/12/2004 12:17:57 PM >>>
>> --- Forwarded Message from Jonathan Perkins <[log in to unmask]> ---
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>>> Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:58:52 -0600
>>> Subject: DISH Network
>>> From: Jonathan Perkins <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To: Language Learning and Technology International Information
>Forum
>> <[log in to unmask]>
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>>
>> Although there has been quite a bit of discussion this year on DISH
>> network, I was hoping someone might have some insight into a rather
>> specific question.
>>
>> We have been using the SCOLA system for a few years now and
>regularly
>> record
>> programming for faculty onto VHS tapes. In an effort to go entirely
>> digital, we are looking at DISH network as a cheaper alternative to
>> SCOLA.
>> Some quick research turned up some compatible Digital Video
>Recorders,
>> but I
>> am unsure whether you can schedule recording times (it appears not)
>or
>> whether you can get the data from the DVR out into some other format
>> that people can take with them. Is anyone recording DISH network
>> programming for
>> faculty checkout? If so, could you drop me a line with how you are
>> accomplishing it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> JP
>>
>>
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