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>Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 17:01:05 -0500
>From: Judy Shoaf <[log in to unmask]>
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>To: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum
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>Subject: Re: #7707.8 DISH Network (!)
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If you go to
http://www.tv5.org/TV5Site/programmes/accueil_continent.php
and click on the FAQ link at the bottom, you'll find a note stating that
TV 5 has only broadcasting rights to the programs--all other rights
remain with the original broadcasters.
The question is attached specifically to requests to purchase copies of
broadcasts from TV5, though; it does not address the right to tape and
keep broadcast materials.
Judy Shoaf
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>>Disposition-Notification-To: "Sharnoff, Katherine " <[log in to unmask]>
>>Subject: RE: #7707.7 DISH Network (!)
>>Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 14:52:45 -0500
>>Thread-Topic: #7707.7 DISH Network (!)
>>Thread-Index: AcTOcVatPuCL6qkjTkKT5EAUz4b4fA==
>>From: "Sharnoff, Katherine " <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: "LLTI-Editor" <[log in to unmask]>
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> Our experience with Dish Network is through the use of French TV5
> programming. We have been told via telephone by TV5 (in France) that we
> can freely copy and save any programming that we record from their
> transmissions. However, I have tried on several occasions to get this
> in writing for our records to no avail.
>
>
> Katherine VZ Sharnoff
> Director, Butler Multimedia Learning Center and Instructor of French
> Randolph-Macon College
> (804) 752-7297
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>>Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:39:52 -0600
>>From: "Read Gilgen" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Subject: Re: #7707.5 DISH Network (!)
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> Not to mention, of course, that some of SCOLA's materials are of dubious
> provenance, and that the original sources are unlikely to come after you
> for copying/archiving their material. Further, most of the SCOLA stuff
> is news programming, which often has less restrictive uses that other
> types such as entertainment.
>
> I should expect that stuff from Dish could be treated like other off-air
> recordings in the fair use realm.
>
> Again, I'm not a lawyer but I do believe we have an obligation to make
> sure we don't surrender rights, thus creating de facto limitations.
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>>Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 15:01:59 -0600
>>From: Tom Browne <[log in to unmask]>
>>Subject: Re: #7707.4 DISH Network (!)
>>In-reply-to: <[log in to unmask]>
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> Although Dish Network may seem less expensive, they do not allow you to
> copy any of the programming. Copying and Archiving the programming off
> of Dish Network is probably Illegal since they don't own the copyright
> to any of the programming.
>
> SCOLA members have full archival rights to all of the programming (for
> as long as you are a member).
>
> Tom Browne
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> --On Tuesday, November 16, 2004 1:08 PM -0500 LLTI-Editor
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>>>Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:58:33 -0600
>>>From: "Read Gilgen" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Subject: Re: #7707 DISH Network
>>
>>Using the DVR that comes with Dish Network (at home), I can create
>>recording "timers." You can't be watching something else while it's
>>recording. However, any output from the DVR (I pass mine to my VCR
>
> as
>
>>well as to my TV), can be recorded at your leisure.
>>
>>I suspect TiVO would do the same thing.
>>
>>
>>>>>[log in to unmask] 11/12/2004 12:17:57 PM >>>
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>>--- Forwarded Message from Jonathan Perkins <[log in to unmask]> ---
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>>>Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:58:52 -0600
>>>Subject: DISH Network
>>>From: Jonathan Perkins <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: Language Learning and Technology International Information
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> Forum
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>><[log in to unmask]>
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>>
>>Although there has been quite a bit of discussion this year on DISH
>>network, I was hoping someone might have some insight into a rather
>>specific question.
>>
>>We have been using the SCOLA system for a few years now and
>
> regularly
>
>>record
>>programming for faculty onto VHS tapes. In an effort to go entirely
>>digital, we are looking at DISH network as a cheaper alternative to
>>SCOLA.
>>Some quick research turned up some compatible Digital Video
>
> Recorders,
>
>>but I
>>am unsure whether you can schedule recording times (it appears not)
>
> or
>
>>whether you can get the data from the DVR out into some other format
>>that people can take with them. Is anyone recording DISH network
>>programming for
>>faculty checkout? If so, could you drop me a line with how you are
>>accomplishing it.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>JP
>>
>>
>>****************************************************
>>Jonathan Perkins
>>Associate Director
>>Ermal Garinger Academic Resource Center University of Kansas
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>>1445 Jayhawk Boulevard
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>>Fax: (785) 864-1256
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>>www.ku.edu/~language
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