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>From: "Herb Martin" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: "'Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum'"    <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: RE: #7388.8 Laptops that don't project? (!)
>Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 22:09:14 -0600
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> I've had several laptops that project everything and anything
> EXCEPT video, and they've all been SONY laptops (typically
> VAIOs).  The general consensus is that the video card in Sony

My VAIO projects just fine -- this one has been displaying and
projecting ALL DAY long this very day.

Once caveat:  The projector or external video cable and device
must be plugged in and TURNED ON when the VAIO boots and the
"blue key" doesn't seem to be performing the "switch".

Trick:  If the machine is already booted when you turn on or
connect the projector/monitor, you can "hibernate/awake" to
more quickly get the video to turn on IF you are using XP,
Win2000. or other OS that supports hibernation.

> products won't allow for projection on multiple monitors.  So
> you can watch on your laptop, but if you try to switch to an
> external monitor, you'll only get audio & a lovely black
> rectangle where the video clip should be.  I've heard a
> suggestion that this is intentional on Sony's part, since
> they're so connected to the film industry & want to prevent
> any inappropriate use of their products.  Don't know if that
> part is true or not, but it's as likely a reason as anything else!

It's just not true however.  Since this very machine, a VAIO GRV680
does not follow the above "unsupported" description but projects
just fine while showing the LCD screen once you activate it.


Herb Martin

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> --- Forwarded Message from "Jodi Samuels"
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> >From: "Jodi Samuels" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: #7388.6 Laptops that don't project? (!)
> >Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 09:26:51 -0600
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> ------------------
> Carol et al,
>
> I just had to chime in when I saw Arjen's comment about Sony
> projectors that don't work with his laptop.
>
> I've had several laptops that project everything and anything
> EXCEPT video, and they've all been SONY laptops (typically
> VAIOs).  The general consensus is that the video card in Sony
> products won't allow for projection on multiple monitors.  So
> you can watch on your laptop, but if you try to switch to an
> external monitor, you'll only get audio & a lovely black
> rectangle where the video clip should be.  I've heard a
> suggestion that this is intentional on Sony's part, since
> they're so connected to the film industry & want to prevent
> any inappropriate use of their products.  Don't know if that
> part is true or not, but it's as likely a reason as anything else!
>
> Anyone else notice this with a certain brand of laptop or projector?
>
> Jodi
>
> Jodi Samuels, Ph.D.
> Foreign Language Technologist/AV Services Coordinator L&S
> Learning Support Services UW-Madison
>
>  >Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2004 22:53:07 +0100
>  >To: Language Learning and Technology International
> Information Forum
>          <[log in to unmask]>
>  >From: Arjen Florijn <[log in to unmask]>
>  >Subject: Re: #7388 Laptops that don't project?
>  >In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]>
>
> ------------------
> Carol,
> My apologies for making silly suggestions, but sometimes
> these were more helpful to me than the expert advice I got.
>
> 1 Those laptops do have a DVD-drive not just a CD-drive?
> 2 Those laptops do have DVD software installed? (Mine has
> PowerDVD, but there are a few others.)
> 3 My laptop does not work with Sony projectors we use in our
> faculty. It works with the few Sharps that are available. (So
> I always ask for a
> Sharp.) No one can tell me why; every expert likes to suggest
> it's my fault, but so far no one came up with a sound
> diagnosis, let alone a solution. So: try to work around the
> problem instead of solving it.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Arjen
>
>
> At 19:56 30-1-2004, you wrote:
>  >--- Forwarded Message from "Carol Reitan"
> <[log in to unmask]> ---  >  > >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:39:12
> -0800  > >From: "Carol Reitan" <[log in to unmask]>  > >To:
> <[log in to unmask]>  > >Subject: Laptops that don't project?
>  >
>  >Hi,
>  >
>  >I've just learned that the Toshiba laptops we check out to
> faculty will  >not project video (from a DVD or web-based
> video). Apparently they are  >missing some kind of special
> software that will allow that. One of our  >instructors has a
> less expensive Computerland laptop that will project  >video
> just fine. Does anyone know the generic name of the software
> >and/or a brand name that will help us track down what we
> need? (Imagine  >the wrath of the instructor, having checked
> out the laptop expressly for  >showing a DVD or some other
> video clip, having schlepped the laptop to  >the newly wired
> classroom, made sure the projector cart was there, etc.
>  >etc, and then not being able to make the video visible for
> the class? )  >  >Thank you!
>  >
>  >
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