--- Forwarded Message from jeremy c munson <[log in to unmask]> ---
>Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:38:10 -0700 (PDT)
>From: jeremy c munson <[log in to unmask]>
>To: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: #7135.6 lab attendance tracking (!)
>In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]>
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You raise an interesting point, and in an ideal world, I think you are
correct; however, it's my understanding that in these times of budget
cuts, there are powers outside of the language lab asking the labs to
justify their budgets, staffing, and even space resources. Hence a good
tracking system (with actual students to track) serves as 'ammunition' in
these times of budget cuts and space disputes.
On Tue, 29 Apr 2003, LLTI-Editor wrote:
> --- Forwarded Message from "Read Gilgen" <[log in to unmask]> ---
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> >Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 09:25:07 -0500
> >From: "Read Gilgen" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Subject: Re: #7135.4 lab attendance tracking (!)
>
> Some time ago (like 15-20 yrs) we decided to get out of the business of
> monitoring student lab attendance. First, all you're doing is verifying
> that they're checking in/out, not what they're doing while there.
> Second, the only way to really tell if the student has been working with
> the assigned materials is to quiz, test, or get them to use in class
> what they've learned.
>
> Too many instructors appease their conscience by getting these
> attendance stats but never take the time to know what the students have
> learned in the lab, or even what the lab materials are.
>
> Fast forwarding to today, nearly all of our materials are digital and
> online. Obviously having tracking software for who attends the lab
> makes even less sense. Building in a check-in method for online work
> (i.e., when someone logs in and logs out) would take care of that, but
> then who's to say who actually checked in or what they did while checked
> in.
>
> Bottom line... we don't track attendance. Period.
>
> >>> [log in to unmask] 4/29/2003 7:49:26 AM >>>
> --- Forwarded Message from "Pons, Julia (Packard)" <[log in to unmask]> ---
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> >From: "Pons, Julia (Packard)" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: "'Language Learning and Technology International Information
> Forum'" <[log in to unmask]>
> >Subject: RE: #7135 lab attendance tracking
> >Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 18:31:50 -0400
>
> Do you have anyone who checks the students in as the enter the lab?
> I've
> experimented with several different tracking programs, but the most
> reliable
> one so far has been to simply create an excel workbook with
> spreadsheets for
> individual classes and students. As students come in the lab, the
> student
> workers take their IDs and enter the day and times on their
> spreadsheets.
>
> It's easy as pie to add their total time spent in the lab this way!
>
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> Julia Packard Pons
> Language Lab Coordinator
> 410-532-5558
> College of Notre Dame of MD
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LLTI-Editor [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 3:19 PM
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> Subject: #7135 lab attendance tracking
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>
> --- Forwarded Message from TennesseeBob Peckham <[log in to unmask]> ---
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> >Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 15:08:17 -0700
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >From: TennesseeBob Peckham <[log in to unmask]>
> >Subject: lab attendance tracking
>
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> We are looking for a good way to track attendance in our 30-station
> networked lab. Student use is approximately 840 use hours per week
> because of a 2-hour per week lab requirement for students in all of
> our 111, 115, 122 and 222 language classes. This is a Mac lab
> running OS9, but as soon as I can convince people to dump some old
> software, we will move to OSX. Our university will have a 9.2% cut
> in budget next year, so we will need to find something very cheap.
>
> TBob
>
>
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> Robert D. Peckham, PhD
> Director, the Globe-Gate Project
> Director, the Muriel Tomlinson Language Resource Center Department of
> Modern
> Foreign Languages Univ. of Tennessee-Martin
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