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Jon Pugh <[log in to unmask]>
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Macintosh Scripting Systems <[log in to unmask]>
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Sat, 24 May 2003 10:50:58 -0700
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At 3:42 AM -0600 5/24/03, Chuck Pelto wrote:
>The move to OS X has made it much more difficult for small networks to
>share information between computers without the presence of a server. Or
>am I thoroughly mistaken on this point? Did things actually get easier?

It's a little of both, in my experience.  OSX is nice, but it's not perfect.  It'll be very nice with a bit more polish, and Apple's attempting to polish X into shape.


>I have five machines here. Two are small business activities, one of
>which is the recently procured server, one powerbook, for use on the
>road and one is used for managing the HA, using AS techniques. All
>relate to the server for back-ups using AS techniques, or rather the
>server relates to them; some daily, others less frequently.

Now, the *notion* of a server is the important part here.  The implementation of a server is almost completely unrelated.  Some people use a Windows server, others use Macs of various OSes.  You sound like you've been running on 9 for some time and have survived the move to X, until now.


>So the server was procured 3 months ago, with AppleCare. By and large,
>things were working fine with Mac OS X Server 10.2.4. Then 10.2.5 came
>out and suddenly, as with XP, everything s****. Things did not improve
>much, if at all, with 10.2.6. It's buggie as all get out.

So, if the Server version is less reliable and more expensive then why are you using it?  The standard client version comes with all the server capabilities that you need, and it gets more QA support (via the users) than it sounds like Server gets.

As I understand it, Server only really gives you the ability to support more users.  The normal version can only support up to 10 users or so.

Plus, the normal version is supported by your AppleCare policy.

You do not need the Server version to run a server.


>Not to mention that dirty
>little secret about what happens if you change the TCP/IP Address on the
>server. Then, last night, I could not get Server Settings to open up at
>all.

It's no secret, put a static IP address on your server if at all possible.  Running a server on a DHCP address is a complete pain in the ass.  Some day Rendezvous will allow us to cope, but I don't think that point is quite here yet, in my experience.

So give the server machine a static IP address, and ideally a sensible name so you don't have to remember the numbers.


>When I called Apple for help, they told me to pay $200 or figure it
>out for myself.

And this still isn't the proper forum to complain about support fees.

Jon

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