--- Forwarded Message from Ursula Williams <[log in to unmask]> ---
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>Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 13:20:13 -0500
>To: Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum <[log in to unmask]>
>From: Ursula Williams <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: #6490 Destinos digitization(!)
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I agree with Read. (Wow, three sets of caps and three exclamation
points! I think he really means it.) In looking over our records, we
find that we have purchased Destinos twice. The first time,in 1993,
($650+) it was never incorporated into classes, so we re-purposed the
copies and moved the originals into the lending library in order to
save space. (I'll never do THAT again!) Several years later, a new
language coordinator is using Destinos for multiple levels and a
multitude of sections. We were forced in 2000 to buy a new set of
masters ($400+) and a license to duplicate unlimited copies ($1000).
I'm feeling reluctant to fork over an additional $800 AND the labor
costs to digitize. I think Annenberg (not McGraw-Hill; they publish
the book) should be able to provide digital Destinos without
squeezing us yet again. The price of the videos may have been
structured to recapture production (filming) costs, and what appears
to be enormous overhead at Annenberg, But there can't be much cost
involved now in burning DVDs, or even allowing us to download files.
This is an area in which IALLT and its affiliates have some clout, I
think. If we presented our objections on the letterhead of our
international organization, even if only to deplore the practice of
charging again and again for the same content, without staying up to
date with format changes, do you think they'd take notice? It's a
thought...
Ursula
>--- Forwarded Message from "Read Gilgen" <[log in to unmask]> ---
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>>Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 12:37:08 -0600
>>From: "Read Gilgen" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Subject: Re: #6490.3 Destinos digitization(!)
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>If I understand you correctly, then this is OUTRAGEOUS!!! Why
>should McGraw-Hill charge EXTRA for something you've already
>purchased and for which you're willing to do the work THEY should
>have done in the first place (i.e., you should be able to purchase
>the digital version).
>
>Am I missing something here?
>
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>Read Gilgen
>Director
>L&S Learning Support Services
>University of Wisconsin - Madison
>(608) 262-1408
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>http://polyglot.lss.wisc.edu/lss/
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>--- Forwarded Message from Beth Secrist <[log in to unmask]> ---
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>>Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 10:10:56 -0500
>>From: Beth Secrist <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>>Organization: University of Tennessee
>>To: LLTI-Editor <[log in to unmask]>
>>Subject: Destinos digitization(!)
>
>Ursula, you are correct about permissions to digitize Destinos. We have
>a new Digital Media Services and an instructor had requested that the
>series be digitized. (These requests normally go through me.) The staff
>there considered the information printed on the back of the videojacket
>as sufficient permission to digitize.
>
>I contacted Joann Grason of McGraw-Hill (202) 879-9648 who stated that
>we did not have permission to digitize and that if we wished to
>digitize, there would be a $400 licensing fee for each part (the series
>consists of two parts).
>
>So, we will remove what has been digitized up to now. I just wanted
>everyone to know the status of the question and provide contact
>information for those interested in digitizing Destinos. Thanks!
>
>Beth Secrist, Director
>Language Resource Center
>Dept. of Modern Foreign Langs. & Lits.
>University of Tennessee
>Knoxville, TN 37996
>(865)974-6494; [log in to unmask]
>http://web.utk.edu/~mfll/LRC/
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