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--- Forwarded Message from "Cahill, Linda E." <[log in to unmask]> ---

>From: "Cahill, Linda E." <[log in to unmask]>
>To: "'Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum'"     <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Divace
>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 08:54:12 -0500

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Tandberg's Divace: if you believe that listening/playback alone is good
pedagogy, then you probably don't need Tandberg's Divace. However, Divace's
second-track recording system gives students a tool for interacting. It's
been a really compelling aspect of our lab (which we've now had for about
six months). Students are using our digitized-Divaced material more
independently and more frequently. Nevertheless, if anybody knows of a
less-expensive two-track system, could you please let me know? I'd be
interested in doing some comparisons.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LLTI-Editor [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 7:24 PM
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Subject:      #5476 Tandberg's response
> 
> From: Andrzej Styrcz <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject:      Tandberg, Teleste Newsletter
> To: [log in to unmask]
> 
> 
> Hallo LLTI members!
> 
> Greetings from snowy Finland!
> 
> If I may I would like to thank all the people who have recently
> contributed
> to the interesting discussion on the Tandberg experiences and especially
> those who were so generous in their comments about Tandberg.
> 
> It goes without saying that we would like all our customers (both teachers
> and students) to be happy and satisfied and we are trying all the time to
> improve both the customer relations as well as the products quality and
> service. We appreciate all the comments about our developments. However,
> it
> does hurt to hear that whatever we seem to do produces such a negative
> feedback as recently posted by Mr Scott Smith. First, a total criticism of
> the Tandberg technology, documentation and prices (Jan 25th), then a
> refusal of Divace with a "nice try t(!)eleste" statement(Jan 27th). I
> wonder what kind of a terrible experience with Tandberg could have caused
> such negative opinions? I would very much like to take the opportunity of
> going to TESOL 2000 in Vancouver and invite Mr Smith to our stand in order
> to understand and clarify the situation.
> 
> As to Divace, let me explain one thing here as it seems to be confusing to
> many. Divace, being one of the very first virtual recorders to replace
> analog lab recorder, is, in its concept a RECORDER and not just a player.
> It is a mistake to compare it to other media players. We are not in the
> same game here and our target has never been to make Divace the player,
> RealAudio, Media player, ATI, Winamp, Sonic or other players are. Divace
> is
> a very powerful language learning tool with two tracks (one for playback
> of
> the master file and the other for student's voice input recording)and lots
> of other "language learning" related features (AACC, text synchronisation,
> bookmarks, recap etc.) Therefore to say that ATI player gives you the same
> options as Divace is groundless, to say the least. Unless one is looking
> only for playback features. Then, again, why should one need Divace?
> 
> One more thing that has also been raised in some messages. Tandberg
> developments (except for multimedia lab teacher-control software and
> hardware) ARE NOT proprietary. Even though, in most LLTI postings Tandberg
> is perceived as a manufacturer of IS10, IS11 or Prisma labs, our recent
> developments are software concepts utilising generic, widely adopted
> technologies (eg. MS Windows-compatible) and serve the needs of learning
> environments other than language labs. DIVACE, for example, plays back all
> basic file formats from avi, wav, mpeg or mp3 to qt and RealMedia (ra, rm)
> to mention just a few. Resource and management software LIBRARY PILOT,
> authoring software PARTNER TOOLS or IMPERATA - application for activity
> control in computer labs - all conform to standard PC technologies.
> 
> Thank you for your attention.
> 
> Andrzej Styrcz
> Marketing Manager
> Teleste Educational Ltd.  tel.+358 2 2166569
> Kaurakatu 46    fax.+358 2 2166527
> 20741 Turku    e-mail: [log in to unmask]
> Finland     http://edu.teleste.fi
>      http://www.divace.com

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