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--- Forwarded Message from "Read Gilgen" <[log in to unmask]> ---

>Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 12:29:10 -0600
>From: "Read Gilgen" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: #5475.1 HTML Editors (!)

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How old-fashioned of you, Jennifer! <grin>  However, I absolutely agree that being able to get at HTML code and either code and/or tweak code is critical.  Regardless of the system used, I have yet to see one that isolates you completely from the need to get down to the HTML-code level.

Now, for preferences...  I used to really like Hot Dog (made code banging easier), but people thought it was too "code-y"  For a while I used WordPerfect, but still had to jump into ASCII mode once in a while to fix errant coding.  Lately I've been using DreamWeaver, which I really like, but which has a level of complexity I'm not sure everyone is interested in learning.

Bottom line (IMHO) is you still need to understand HTML coding basics if you want to do more than create packaged (and therefore generic) web pages.


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Read Gilgen, Director
L&S Learning Support Services
University of Wisconsin
(608) 262-1408
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>>> LLTI-Editor <[log in to unmask]> 02/10/00 11:39AM >>>
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>From: "Jennifer Bates" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: "Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum"    <[log in to unmask]>
>References: <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re:  #5475 HTML Editors
>Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 15:37:46 -0330

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This question usually sparks a lot of debate and here's my opinion. I still
think you're better off with a program that facilitates the creation of code
by hand, and produces code that is clean, predicatable and easy to edit.
Probably cheaper too. Right now I'm trying out a Windows based one call
40tude which I quite like (www.40tude.com). I've also used Allaire's
Homesite which was very similar. I've only had the briefest of experiences
with FrontPage which ended up in me throwing out the code and starting over
again! I also don't like Composer because I find it awkward. I've never had
the chance to work with Dreamweaver. As for training faculty, we still teach
them the actual code using Notepad and Netscape, but I'm starting to hear
lots of complaints that I'm old fashioned in this approach.

Jennifer Bates
Programmer Consultant
Faculty of Arts
Memorial University of Newfoundland
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>Date:    Fri, 4 Feb 2000 10:14:25 EST
>From:    LLTI-Editor <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: #5475 HTML Editors
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>Hi, I have a question about what HTML editors you commonly use and which
>ones you train faculty to use and why.  Here are GMU, we currently
>support Dreamweaver and Composer, but we are now debating whether or not
>to move to Front Page instead of Dreamweaver.  Oh, we have UNIX
>webservers without Front Page extensions, although we may get an NT
>server w/ FP extensions in the summer (in addition to the UNIX boxes).
>
>Thanks,
>Sharon
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>Sharon Alayne Widmayer
>Instructional Resource Center
>Department of Instructional Improvement & Instructional Technology
>George Mason University
>Fairfax, VA
>(703) 993-9018
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>http://mason.gmu.edu/~swidmaye/ 
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