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--- Forwarded Message from "Michael Bush" <[log in to unmask]> ---

>From: "Michael Bush" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: "Language Learning and Technology International Information Forum"    <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: RE: #5428.5 Popular DVD movies are only French and Spanish (!)
>Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 00:40:58 -0700
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Ken Carpenter:
> I think, naively perhaps, that the actual process of
cutting DVDs could
> be done by the media department of many of your colleges.
Perhaps, with
> funding from Annenberg or some other foundation, the big
media companies
> might allow a college to make versions of the films with
many tracks.
> Perhaps the grantee could sublet the process to a media
company.

This is not a cheap process, although it is getting cheaper.
We recently completed what we think is the first DVD of a
feature movie prepared especially for language learning, a
DVD of the classic Italian film, C'eravamo tanto amati.  We
put 6 different sub-title tracks in English and Italian, as
well as a menu structure so the disc is easily accessible
from a standard home player.  I am at present finishing a
teacher's guide that will contain barcodes of the script of
the entire film.

All of this is not a trivial process, but it is indeed
doable.  The key question is of course is "Can the process
be made to pay for itself through sales?"

Cheers,

Mike
Michael Bush
Associate Professor of French and
Instructional Psychology and Technology
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Subject: Re: #5428.5 Popular DVD movies are only French and
Spanish (!)

--- Forwarded Message from "Ken Carpenter"
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>From: "Ken Carpenter" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: "Language Learning and Technology International
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>Subject: Re:      Re: #5428.2 Popular DVD movies are only
French and Spanish (!)
>Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:37:21 -0500

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    Thanks to those who responded. Perhaps there is a good
and feasible
educational opportunity but not a profitable market to put
numerous tracks
on great film DVDs. What I am hearing makes me think that
all the audio and
subtitle tracks exist but the market may be a bit slim.

    Is there someone on our list who has the ability and the
wish to prepare
a grant proposal to bring the resources together.

    I think, naively perhaps, that the actual process of
cutting DVDs could
be done by the media department of many of your colleges.
Perhaps, with
funding from Annenberg or some other foundation, the big
media companies
might allow a college to make versions of the films with
many tracks.
Perhaps the grantee could sublet the process to a media
company.

    Perhaps something like PBS could make and distribute
such disks at a
reasonable price.

    If one of you should decide to prepare such a grant, I
believe people on
the list would offer suggestions.

    The thought occured to me so I am passing it on.

Ken Carpenter

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: #5428.2 Popular DVD movies are only French and
Spanish (!)


> --- Forwarded Message from "Cindy S. Tracy"
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>
> >Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 08:32:26 -0500 (EST)
> >To: Language Learning and Technology International
Information Forum
<[log in to unmask]>
> >From: "Cindy S. Tracy" <[log in to unmask]>
> >Subject: Re: #5428 Popular DVD movies are only French and
Spanish
>
> ------------------
> >
> >    But only French and Spanish are common as additional
sound and audio
> >tracks. I wonder if the decision to limit the number of
tracks was made
> >because someone thought the interest in such a feature is
limited. Would
> >there be enough interest? Could we communicate that there
would be to the
> >decision makers?
> >
> >Ken Carpenter
>
>
> I have asked about this in order to sell DVDs in other
language tracks and
> the reason I was given is that the Spanish and French
audio tracks are
> readily available on videos formatted for TVs and VCRs in
the U.S. Market
> (the French ones being converted in Canada for North
America) and the
other
> languages are on videos that are on different systems.
There are original
> foreign language DVDs available in Italian, German,
Japanese, Chinese,
etc.
> but not American movies.  I assumed that since DVDs are
coded for
different
> regions it has to do with the video conversion to DVD
format.
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