Gee, Geoff, with his load of collective whinging, I thought you must have used Lion for a while and then decided it was beyond you.

It's a great shame you have not done so in order to add to our experiences. Lion is different, it has many improved ways of working and a multitude of small improvements.

Doug's comments are spot on.

A pity you haven't at least tried it.
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Regards from brianF
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On 14/08/2011, at 9:09 AM, Geoffrey Heard wrote:

> At 9:32 AM +0100 13/8/11, Doug Browne wrote:
>> 
>> I have been using Lion since the day it came out and to start with I 
>> was confused and appalled! After a lot of experiment and several 
>> visits to the nearby Apple Store I am getting to know Lion quite 
>> well.  Apart from the beautiful new Mail, there are so many useful 
>> little features such as being able to change the size/shape of a 
>> window by dragging any edge our corner. Once you become familiar 
>> with them, 'Gestures' opens up a whole new way of operating my Mac.
> 
> Huh? Haven't we always been able to do this? Or perhaps I'm thinking 
> of just the bottom right corner. So now you can do it with any 
> corner. Wow! And you spent days learning this to save you, what, five 
> seconds a year?
> 
>> Yes Geoff there is a two finger gesture!
> 
> There doesn't need to be -- I can already do on -- in the direction 
> of Lion!  :)
> 
>> Having used Macs for some twenty years, I was certainly stuck in a 
>> groove regarding operating them.
> 
> And why not? You're stuck in a groove about how to breathe, walk, 
> switch on a light, boil water and make a cup of tea. It all works. 
> Why waste time learning a new way of doing essentially the same thing?
> 
>> Now, with multiple Desktops and not having to find applications in 
>> a file or the Dock, I love the new OS as it seems so natural.
> 
> Yep -- after you have experimented for days and visited the nearby 
> Apple store numerous times and overlearned it. Soccer players think 
> hitting the ball with their head is so natural too. Lucky there was a 
> nearby Apple store. Most people in the world don't have that luxury. 
> Here in the prosperous south-eastern and bayside suburbs of 
> Melbourne, where perhaps 1.5 million people live, we haven't had a 
> dedicated Apple retailer for 10-15 years (after Apple deliberately 
> and cold bloodedly send the early retailer broke).
> 
> But just yesterday, I visited the regional shopping centre, 
> Southland, and was startled to see signs reading "Apple Store now 
> open on Fashion Bridge, Level 2". Well, I thought, that location 
> tells me all I need to know about the future of the Mac given that 
> both Apple and Westfield (the mall owners) are obsessive about 
> appropriate grouping of shops.
> 
> In Papua New Guinea (and vast swathes of the rest of the world) our 
> Internet access is limited and there is no Apple Store, although one 
> retailer in Port Moresby now sells Apple. I know more about Macs than 
> he does, though.
> 
>> It is informative to see very young kids entering the Apple Store, 
>> going up to Mac and with hardly any hesitation, performing the task 
>> they want. They certainly could not do this a month ago.
> 
> They actually did do this a month ago and a year ago and more. 
> Starting with no preconceptions, they grokked the system. Just like I 
> did with the little beige box and mouse to the horror of the PC 
> experts with which Chisholm Institute of Technology (where I worked) 
> abounded with the time. Also don't forget that the new Mac OS mimics 
> iPhones which in turn are similar in many respects to other phones. 
> The current kids enter the store with phone experience.
> 
> In the end, why should I learn a new way of operating a Mac -- which 
> for me is simply a tool -- when it won't do the work I want it to do? 
> Your WPing is going to be transformed by the new OS? I don't think 
> so. And so on. Lion won't run Canvas, ergo a Mac with Lion is no 
> longer a useful tool for me because Canvas is my tool of choice. 
> other programs can't do what it does -- if if they can, it is more 
> difficult.
> 
> Well, wonder of wonders -- the sun has broken through in Melbourne 
> and is now drying the clothes I put on the line yesterday. it feels 
> so natural!  :)
> 
> Cheers, geoff