Knut S. Vikør wrote:
> Den 14. feb. 2011 kl. 13:02 skrev Erik Richard Sørensen:
>> Knut S. Vikør wrote:
>>> Mariner Write didn't do Unicode or Arabic, so of no interest to me.
>>> I do get Mariner ads through some non-filtered spams, but not
>>> recently for Write, I think? But lack of Unicode would indicate
>>> they are not working terribly hard on it. 
>> Sure MarinerWrite does Unicode, but if you don't use Unicode fonts,
>> you will get problems. 
> 
> I am not sure what you mean by that. Just downloaded the latest
> version, 3.9.0, and to wit:

Of course 3.9 and not 3.8.:-)

> - The Arabic (Unicode) keyboard is greyed out and is not accessible.
> - When I try to write a Unicode character, like any diacritic in
> US Extended, it instead inserts the character of that key in the
> corresponding non-Unicode US keyboard (try Option-t, it should give
> thorn in US Extended, but gives the old dagger we used to have under
> Option-t). 
> - When I copy an Arabic, or other Unicode, text into MarinerWrite,
> it is converted to characters of the Mac character set (the old "high
> ASCII", punctuation marks); or to question marks. 
> 
> The font choice does not enter into it; whether I use OpenType, AAT,
> or what, the result is the same. (The Apple Arabic AAT fonts do not
> show up in the font list.)
> 
> All in all, it behaves exactly as if it ignores Unicode and only
> supports the old 8bit Macintosh character set. It is one of very few
> applications I can see today where not even the Arabic keyboard is
> accessible. Very very old.

Hm, I can see the problems, but have you tried to use 'Arabic QWERTY' 
instead of the 'Arabic Extended'? - But no matter which keyboard I 
choose for any of the Semittic languages they are all chosable when MW 
is open here using OS X 10.5.8...

It might also have something to do with the fonts chosen. I normally 
only use UTF-8 compatible .ttf or TT fonts containing both upper and 
lower ASCII.

If I fx. copy & paste a Semittic text - Arabic, Hebrew, Iraq, Urdu or 
any other Semittic text, it's correct that most of the time it just 
become standard Mac characters, but then I just 'Select All' and choose 
one of my prefered .ttf/TT fonts for the specific language. - Most of 
what I get of that kind of text I get from Windows based computers still 
using the UTF-8, so maybe that's why I normally don't have any problems...

OK, I can't read and understand the Arabic, but I can see, if the 
characters are the same as the source text, and most of the time it does 
show up correctly.

Cheers, Erik Richard

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