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Erik Richard Sørensen <[log in to unmask]>
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Sat, 9 Oct 2010 14:27:18 +0200
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Hei Þorvarður

Þorvarður Davíðsson wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 00:28:34 +0200, Erik Richard Sørensen wrote:
>> Last night I was editing some documents containing primarely Thai 
>> text for one of my friends. I of course did the main work in NWP and 
>> everything showed up and worked just perfect when using the Arial.otf 
>> (UTF-8/16) font.
>> […] I of course 
>> saved the documents in RTF. To control if everything was right, I 
>> opened the documents in my Word 2008 (Mac) - NOTHING was correct - 
>> only squares and reversed questionmarks.:-(
> 
> I don't know if this has anything to do with it but I thought I should 
> report it; it's about some irregularities with Arial on Leopard.
> 
> http://objectmix.com/adobe-indesign/780639-arial-tt-vs-otf-indesign-handles-same-fontfile-differently-leopard.html

I have never seen this issue before, - and I've been using the Arial
fontgroup right from my first Mac bac in 1992/93 - both the normal
Arial.TT, Arial.T1, .TTF and later on the Unicode versions and now
also the OTF. And as I read this issue it's only concerning the use of
InDesign, and I don't use ID...

> Did you try to save the document without formatting (no tables for 
> examples) and then open it in Word? 

Yes, the docs are saved without any formatting. - They only contain
clean text without any kind of tables, paragraphs, columns and other
things like that.

> When I activate the Thai keyboard and start writing Thai in NWP, then 
> save the document as RTF and open it in Word 2008 (Mac) everything 
> seems to be OK, even Thai and Latin characters side by side are 
> rendered correctly in Word 2008 for the Mac.

Yes, but here you also use the Apple Thai input through the keyboard.
- I have copied the texts from many parts and just collected them into
more specific documents. - The original font set i LucidaGrande, but no
Windows version has this font and therefore also won't be able to read
the text, so that's why I converted to the Arial.otf/ArialUnicodeMS.ttf,
since this fontset is fully readable on any Windows from Win98SE and
up - including Win7.

So I simply chose 'Select All' and switched the font to Arial.otf and later
to ArialUnicodeMS.ttf, - and everything looks correctly in both NWP and
OpenOffice (both Mac and Windows versions)....

I know from my friend that they too have severe problems when they are
sending mails to his wife's family and have to switch to an old TTF Thai
font and use the 'single input' in Win7 and Word2007/2010 and then
attach the Word file inline to the mail before sending it.

I recommended him to buy a Mac, and after he has seen how easy it is,
this is one of the reasons that he'd like to have a Mac, but his wife says,
that the Mac is too expensive.:-)

So I think the PDF is the only secure method to work these fiels out 
right...

Cheers, Erik Richard

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