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Erik Richard Sørensen <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 22 Jan 2014 18:15:40 +0100
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Hello Tim

Hm, /If/ it should be an italics problem, I wonder the "656515777" = /9/ 
ciffers. Normally it would only be 4 (hexa-decimal) or in some rare 
cases 8 (double hexa-decimal) ciffers.

You don't mention which fonts are used in the original document, so I'd 
very much like to know the font name(s) and mostly used size(s).

Do you have 'Font Substitution' enabled in NWP? - If yes, which fonts 
are you using as substitudes for which fonts?

Do you happen to have either BBEdit or TextWrangler? - What happens if 
you open the file in either? - Does either show the same ciffering - in 
green coloring? - in red coloring? - or normal black coloring?

What happens if you - in NWP - use 'Select All' and then 'Hide 
Invisibles'. - Do the 9-ciffer numbers disappear?

I know of one group of fonts that maybe could cause these problems. 
These are the "MS Serif" and "MS Sans Serif" UTF-15 compatible fonts 
that come along with Windows Vista - and maybe also with Win7 and Win8. 
This font group is installed along with MSOffice 2007 and MSOffice 2012 
Windows Editions, and they are some of the worse piece of work that ever 
has come from MS. This MS font group should be UTF-8, UTF-16 and UTF-32 
compatible, but they aren't!

The only font that I know which will show this font group correctly is 
the "ArialUnicodeMS.ttf" an apprx. 23mb large UTF-8/15/16/32 compatible 
font...

Cheers, Erik Richard

THDW wrote:
> I think that this weird number is triggered by italics.
>
> On 21 Jan 2014, at 20:41, Erik Richard Sřrensen wrote:
>> Neither have I using NWP 1.4.x as well as OpenOffice.
>> But mostly  I use either NWP in favor of Apache OpenOffice.
>>
>> If I recall right the numberings has something to do with
>> the very special way (read: odd) that Word handles line
>> endians in the .docx on Windows. I've seen it before and
>> once not even AOO would open such a file without the
>> numberings, so I returned the document and asked the sender
>> to fix the endian problems and send in .rtf format instead.
>>
>> I don't know how it is in LibreOffice, but in OpenOffice you
>> must enable  /all/ the MSOffice compatibility converter
>> plug-ins for it to work proper.
>>
>> My first thought - like Simi - was to use Find&Replace to
>> remove the numbers, but then my mind told me from somewhere
>> way back that it isn't a good idea, since this can mess up
>> the whole file, when the author opens the corrected document.
>>
>> so, if NWP won't behave I think that LibreOffice or
>> OpenOffice will be the best to use here....
>>
>> - Btw.... There are the same problems with .xlsx files
>> sent from Windows machines.:-(
>>
>> rdavis wrote:
>>> Have you tried both available converters? Go to Preferences
>>>> Advanced, and note which converter is selected for docx
>>> files. Try the other one and see what results you get. I
>>> always use the LibreOffice converter for docx files and have
>>> never had such a problem.
>>>
>>>> Nisoids
>>>>
>>>> I have received a MS Word .docx document which I must revise.
>>>>
>>>> For some reason the document opened in Nisus is showing
>>>> an intrusive number which is not there in the document when
>>>> opened in Word:
>>>>
>>>> Nisus:
>>>>> 656515777 On Saturday morning, three officers of the
>>>>> Service Régional de la Police Judiciaire656515777
>>>>> presented themselves at the offices of the Centre
>>>>> Environnement. According to eyewitnesses, Monsieur
>>>>> Dugain appeared his normal, jovial self,656515777
>>>>
>>>> Word:
>>>>> On Saturday morning, three officers of the Service
>>>>> Régional de la Police Judiciaire presented themselves
>>>>> at the offices of the Centre Environnement. According
>>>>> to eyewitnesses, Monsieur Dugain appeared his normal,
>>>>> jovial self,
>>>>
>>>> What is causing this intrusion?
>>>>
>>>> How can I get rid of it while editing in Nisus without
>>>> radically changing the document which I must send back to my editor?I

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